“I’m sort of a complex chaotic systems guy, so I have a low estimate that I actually know what the nonlinear dynamic in the memosphere really was,” he said. (Translation: It’s complicated.)

Why do these people have the urge to talk like this? Does it make themselves feel smarter? Do they think it makes them look smart to other people? Are they so caught up in their field they can't code switch to normal person talk?

“I’m sort of a complex chaotic systems guy, so I have a low estimate that I actually know what the nonlinear dynamic in the memosphere really was,”

I say right before inhaling deeply from a bag in which I have dispensed a hefty amount of spray paint.

wait it's all thielbux?

🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

I get it—calling AGI a conspiracy isn’t a perfect analogy. It will also piss a lot of people off [emp mine].

No need to oversell it, I already was onboard on the 'it is a conspiracy' bit.

And you know he has done some research when he brings up Ben Goertzel. (Who last I checked now really believes in parapsychology)

Goertzel did some work with Peter Thiel

Drink!

“You don’t understand how Eliezer has programmed half the people in your company to believe in that stuff,” he is reported to have told Altman at a dinner party in late 2023. “You need to take this more seriously.” Altman “tried not to roll his eyes,” according to Wall Street Journal reporter Keach Hagey.

I wonder exactly when this was. The attempted oust of Sam Altman was November 17, 2023. So either this warning was timely (but something Sam already had the pieces in place to make a counterplay against), or a bit too late (as Sam had recently just beaten an attempt by the true believers to oust him).

Sam Altman has proved adept at keeping the plates spinning and wheedling his way through various deals, I agree with the common sentiment here that he his underlying product just doesn't work well enough, in a unique/proprietary enough way for him to actually use that to get profitable company. Pivot-to-AI and Ed Zitron have a guess of 2027 for the plates to come crashing down, but with an IPO on the way to infuse more cash into OpenAI I wouldn't be that surprised if he delays the bubble pop all the way to 2030, and personally gets away cleanly with no legal liability for it and some stock sales lining his pockets.

Goertzel is a fan of Chris Langan.