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[-] kwomp2@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 days ago

Welcome to todays episode of criticizing things you haven't read:

[-] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 days ago

So you're saying he forgot to account for the human nature of judging things you haven't seen/read/experienced?

[-] kwomp2@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe he was human naturing human nature itself and unlocked a whole new nature. Of humans, that is.

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[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 89 points 4 days ago

You know that humans lived in communal societies for a long fuckin time before all the bullshit we know today, right?

Human nature is not greed. That's capitalism.

[-] Stitch0815@feddit.org 46 points 4 days ago

Pretty sure humans have been bashing in each others heads over resources since the dawn of humanity.

Capitalism made it worse and more efficient tho.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 55 points 4 days ago

Half the problem with capitalism is that we aren't allowed to bash in the heads of the people who took all the resources.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Humans were constrained by their material conditions. Now that those material conditions have changed, their behaviors have changed to match. This is not a fixed state of affairs. Humans continue to transition between stages just like every other living being.

Greed is as much a part of modern human nature as fear and love. And it is the product of a social condition that rewards growth, punishes disobedience, and requires a larger community to reproduce itself. It is a consequence of social conditioning executed iteratively from parent to child. And a consequence of statistical survival and prosperity played out over populations.

What defines human action is not the basic libidinal impulse, but the interplay between people and their environments over lifetimes and generations. That's not socialism or capitalism at its root. Socialism and capitalism are simply fruits grown from the post-industrial branches of the tree of human history.

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[-] myszka@lemmy.ml 78 points 4 days ago

Human nature on its deathbed when it realizes it forgot to account for Karl Marx

[-] Mambert@beehaw.org 67 points 4 days ago

Observing humans in capitalism and assuming greed is just human nature is like observing humans on the Titanic and assuming drowning is human nature.

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[-] orioler25@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Liberal doomerism based on imaginary restrictions, how new.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 days ago

it's not just imaginary, humans thrived of mutual cooperation for tens of thousands of years while capitalism has only existed for a few hundred, but somehow that it's became the default position of everyone.

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[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Capitalism doesn't work, and it's for the same reason.

[-] redti@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 days ago

Marx didn't forgot such thing he refuted it. No such thing as " human nature "

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