More honest:
My religion says I can't do that.
I don't care.
My religion says you can't do that.
I don't care.
More honest:
My religion says I can't do that.
I don't care.
My religion says you can't do that.
I don't care.
That's unfortunately not how it works. The religious very often use their religion as an excuse to control other peoples' lives.
Indeed, all fun and games until they kidnap you from the streets because their religious laws prohibit the way you dress.
I don't care
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you lose your freedom. Be sure to remain meek when they come to shackle you, it'll be fine I'm sure.
That's definitely how it works. Fuck their god and fuck them too. They can worship who or whatever the hell they want but the minute they try to shove it down everyone's throat that's when it's a problem..
I’m going to vote for the guy who shares my religious values, and he’s going to make the thing you’re doing illegal
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Even the top part is not innocuous when it's vaccines they say they "can't" do.
innocuous
I see what you did there.
My religion says to love and have compassion unconditionally, full stop
Out of curiousity, which one is this?
And whether you look under the rug, is that true in all texts of the religion?
Buddhism, more specifically vajrayana.
I think it’s better understood amongst practitioners that if you don’t walk the path then you’re not really a Buddhist. I know this is true of pretty much all religions but there’s no, what I call, John 3:16 clause. There are many Christian’s who think just believing in Jesus. This may be true in other religions too but I’m from Christianity. Buddhism gave me a different perspective on what it means to believe though. To believe in a teacher is to follow and apply those teachings through every aspect existence. Believe or take refuge in the teaching, not the vehicle that delivered that teaching.
You can have that worldview without religion.
idk I think people shouldn't be able to sell their children into marriages at 14 years old just because they don't share my beliefs that that's horrible. Meanwhile they think that an abortion harms a child in a way that outweighs b the mother's right to decide whether or not her body gets used as life support and I don't. I think whether or not it's important to meddle in other's private and family lives is actually a fairly complicated question.
'My magical delusions forbid me from using common sense'.
Aight man, godspeed I guess 😅
"My religion prohibits it!"
THEN DON'T FUCKING DO IT.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
shame we can't prevent them from voting about it.
love how the bible literally says public displays of faith and prayer is wrong yet people who've never read the bible will claim otherwise.
Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.
Actually "fuck off" to the above statement as well in many cases. "I'm a gynecologist. My religion says I can't do an abortion." Fuck off. Where I live (Croatia) pharmacies can refuse to sell you contraceptive pills if the person on the counter says it disagrees with their religion. Fuck off.
People's values are never a purely private matter.
if the person on the counter says it disagrees with their religion
"Dont go to the pharmacy on wednesdays because that bitch Mary is on shift."
I’m a gynecologist. My religion says I can’t do an abortion.
I would say that if "you" won't perform an abortion, "you" are not actually a gynecologist. Go study and practice urology, or proctology, or gastroenterology, or oncology, or neurology, or cardiology, or dermatology, or any other field where "you" will not be called upon to perform a simple, routine procedure.
That's what you'd assume, but again in my country this is not a rare situation. Yes, people literally spend years studying to become gynecologists, and then don't want to do one of the important parts of their job.
Admittedly, it is believed that many of the gynecologists actually do the abortions... in private clinics where they work in along with their job in the public hospital.
I think because most religious tenets are more restrictive rather than permissive, it's easy to say "everyone should have the freedom to practice their own religion.", but the part that gets left out is "including no religion at all." and that is an important distinction.
Whenever I meet these types of psycho Christian nationalists who think it's A-OK to impose their own regressive views on others by rewriting the law to be a reflection of their holy text, I just fire back with an even more regressive, barbaric interpretation of a religious commandment.
"I worship Ba'al Hamon, and my religion says I must sacrifice an infant child to gain his favor. I will lobby my congressmen to change the law to add an exception to infanticide when performing a ritualistic blood offering. Oh, what's that? You don't like that? Gee, and you were so gung-ho about forcing people to abide by your religious demands a second ago. I thought we were cool with forcing our beliefs on other people?"
If your religion can't coexist with nonbelievers without forcibly bending them to your rules, it's a shit religion.
"My religion says I shouldn't vaccinate my kids" Fuck off.
You provided a good counterpoint. These self-imposed restrictions can become obstructive or even weaponized. It's like a variation of weaponized incompetence.
These restrictions can also lead to people making onerous demands of others to accommodate.
The issue is that the vast majority of people don't view religion as "what I should or shouldn't do." They view it as "what should and shouldn't be done." They can't just follow the tenants themselves; in order to follow their religion - at least not the way they interpret it - they need to make sure the tenants are being universally followed. That's why religion is always at odds with society as a whole unless that society is already overbearingly religious. It will never change unless there are no major groups within society with different beliefs than the norm.
What about the landlords? Are they also universally followed?
Stop inviting the landlord to minecraft night for god sakes
They keyword when it comes to any religion is fundamentalism.
No, the key word is Religion. It's all fundamentalism, just different intensities.
I don't have a religion so anyone that uses their's to try to enforce their rules on me can hang
Yeah people love policing what others do :3. I'd return the favour but I can't think of any good rules in my religion to throw at them, when the situation comes up lol
Given they're all made up... at this point we're better off making up a religion that enforces actually good behaviour like taking vaccines and not bothering people with different sexualities/gender identities/etc.
Whenever I tell people I don’t drink tea or coffee because of my religion the conversation goes like this
“Your Mormon?!”
“Not really, not so much anymore”
“So why don’t you drink it now?!”
“Because it’s gross. It’s an acquired taste I never acquired “
“How do you wake up then?”
“Cocaine”
Edit: I don’t like the taste of cocaine either but I love how it smells.
I think the disconnect comes from the phrasing of the first sentence. Perhaps combine it with the third?
I was never a coffee drinker for unrelated reasons, and also never acquired the taste for it even though the smell is generally nice.
But now I'm in my 40s and have multiple medical conditions (i.e., more than just the AuDHD, lol) that are treated with stimulants, so I will usually supplement my adderall with a cup of coffee in the morning and one at lunch time.
The nice thing is that I don't have decades of tolerance and habit around the stuff, so it is still nice and potent. Instead of adding a bunch of junk to it, I just let it cool off then drink it quickly or add a chocolate protein shake to it for a few breakfast calories if I didn't eat.
Plus even though I don't like the taste I think the coffee at work is decent because it's a machine that grinds whole beans, and the operations manager for our location fills the hopper with the beans himself. Some Starbucks somebody gave me recently tasted rotten in comparison. And that's not "mischievous child" rotten, that's carcass rotten.
Some Starbucks somebody gave me recently tasted rotten in comparison
Sbucks always tastes like dogshit because they burn the absolute shit out of their beans. No one goes there to taste coffee, they go because they want caffeinated vanilla pumpkin mace choco cinnamon. I can't imagine they started that way when they were a little shop in seattle so I think when they exploded they needed a consistent flavor as the base, and the way they accomplished that was by over roasting all the variations out of the beans they got.
I have pretty severe adhd. Going thru treatment options now because cocaine isnt the standard treatment lol
I drink a lot of soda and before cocaine I was up to 4 amp energy drinks a day plus the sodas.
I was totally one of those “don’t talk to me until I’ve had coffee “ but with energy drinks
what if my religion says you can't do that but so does the law because they share their core moral system?
A law isn't necessarily bad just because religion might agree with it. Murder is wrong, and religion agrees with that. We can't allow murder, simply because it violates a religious code. That's taking a worthy concept - purging religious influence from government - and turning it into the same incoherent dogma which describes much of religion.
The first is how many think it works, but it's just a ruse. It's always the second, and religious magical thinking always results in social positions and votes that are damaging and regressive.
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