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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 29 points 16 hours ago

The thing is that the rebels were (mostly) white, and removing the racial lens allowed Americans to see that a struggle like that of colonized people against their oppressors was obviously correct. But it also means they can't connect the rebels to real world conflicts, because the oppressed people are generally not white, and so it's understood through a racial lens.

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 67 points 19 hours ago

My favourite one (it happens a lot in the UK and I assume in other places too) is when people say things like "I support the cause but the protest is really disruptive."

Like no shit, that's the entire point of a protest. They also sometimes complain about strikes being inconvenient for them. Oh, is this strike illustrating to you why this service is essential and it would be bad if it went away?

One time when I used to be on reddit I had an argument with someone who was against a climate protest because it could have blocked an ambulance and gotten someone killed. But this was after the protest had already happened and that had not occurred. So you don't support it because of a hypothetical disaster that you just made up, that already didn't happen? People, man

[-] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Very well put.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Related, in Star Wars lore, Tarkin got promoted (in the late Republic) after landing a ship on top of a crowd of protesters where were blocking the spaceport on Ghorman.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 13 points 14 hours ago

It's a bad argument anyway, since street-blocking protest crowds almost always part to allow an ambulance through. If an ambulance is stopped, it's usually the cops blocking it.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The only protest that intentionally blocked emergency services I can think of was the antivaxxer "freedom convoy" protests.

But when you ask a random lib to think of a protest blocking emergency services they'll blurt out something about climate/workers/BLM/Palestine/etc. Talk about the freedom convoy and they'll get holier than thou about how unfairly those widdle science denwying fwascists got treated by the police when any Leftist protest ever was treated 100x worse.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 13 hours ago

I’ve never seen ambulances or fire trucks intentionally blocked, and I’ve often seen protest organizers plan ahead for ambulance & fire access.

[-] SirQuack@feddit.nl 5 points 13 hours ago

They should, the point is to cause a nuisance and force people to listen. The point is not to endanger random people.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 28 points 17 hours ago

This annoys me to no end…

Liberals pissing and moaning about being 2 minute late to brunch because some people with convictions are peacefully standing in the road.

Meanwhile they can’t even fathom the type of revolution that western society actually needs…

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The classic British response to protests is "Blocking the roads hurts the economy. It's terrorism."

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 23 points 18 hours ago

And then they cheer at the truck protest, that blocks the roads and is being disruptive.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago

Mask on, mask off.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago

I swear I was in the same argument battling the same bullshit!

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The only halfway-decent treatment I’ve seen in Western media to date was the Cylon occupation of New Caprica in the 2004 Battlerstar Galactica TV series. It was basically the US occupation of Iraq, except the “us” were the occupied insurgents and the “them” were the occupiers.

[-] AlexLost@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

If you want to get real into it, the "humans" were also really worried because "they" could act, look, and sound like us?! The horror!!!

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 71 points 22 hours ago

The worst is when they compare the DNC to the rebels, when Lucas himself said the rebels were basically the Viet Cong.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 13 hours ago

Anything to cope, and bury rebellion assent

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 17 points 16 hours ago

Libs think Trump vs. Harris was like Leia vs Darth Vader when in reality it was more like Darth Vader vs Palpatine.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 16 hours ago
[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 39 points 19 hours ago

It's like that old meme about how Luke is a desert farmer who is given weapons and radicalized by a bearded man in a cave, then goes off to a militia training camp and eventually blows up a government installation.

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 18 hours ago

When Luke joins the rebels against the Empire because his people were murdered.

Liberals: 🥰

When a Palestinian kid joins Hamas against the Empire because his people were murdered.

Liberals: 🤬

[-] woodenghost@hexbear.net 22 points 17 hours ago

They never say: "If you don't like how the resistance operates, why don't you join it and try to change it from the inside?"

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 18 points 17 hours ago

Noooo that only applies to electoral theater.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 19 hours ago

Yep, that's literally what it is.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I've literally never noticed before that Obi-Wan had a beard.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 14 points 19 hours ago

this seemed too fantastical so i had to look it up and even gemini says so. lol

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The interviewer was trying put words in his mouth but then George corrected him. Mujahideen and Al qaeda were both US funded terror groups. Then he tried to shift the blame of the crimes of the American empire solely on to the British Empire and Lucas again corrected him. 😂 Astroturfer ass interviewer!

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/HDJyAapsLJw

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 27 points 19 hours ago

Yep, he said it on camera. Even said he was jealous of the soviet filmmakers for not being beholden to the profit motive.

[-] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 21 points 19 hours ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 22 points 19 hours ago

He def had more liberal tendencies, but at least could recognize material reality.

[-] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 12 points 16 hours ago

Oh yeah for sure, I was just being silly.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 12 points 17 hours ago

i'd sooner believe a random commenter than ai hallucinations, why on earth would that crap increase your confidence?

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 16 hours ago

Especially when the English-language corpora used to train LLMs are virtually exclusively anti-communist.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 27 points 19 hours ago

Deeply unserious people.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 28 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Libs watch movies about oppressed or colonized minorities (like in Frozen 2 or total recall) and then side with the colonizers or oppressors in real life

[-] RindoGang@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 19 hours ago

Self preservation I guess

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