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I'm going to guess the shooters were white supremacists with incoherent ideology

The guy who tackled one of the shooters to take his shotgun away is a legend though

Update: Appears one of the suspects is likely Middle East/Arabic/Subcontinent background. Going to see a rise in racism for sure

Update 2: Rabbi Schlanger (pro Israel man who wrote a letter to Albanese to deny Palestine statehood and is also one of the organisers of the even taking place at Bondi Beach) is one of the dead. ASIO claim one of the shooters was known to them, of course. Now up to 16 dead

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[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Updated info on Ahmed al-Ahmed (feel free to edit into body of your post if you want to):

Ahmed al Ahmed's cousin gives an interview to Al Araby. Full translation in the subtitles, but key highlights:

His full name is Ahmed Fathi Al-Ahmed

Ahmed is Australian, of Syrian origin, from the city of Idlib, from the village of Al-Nayrab

He didn’t know; it was not targeting Jews. He saw an armed man shooting at people. When he saw people dying and being shot, he couldn’t bear it.

At first, he wasn’t thinking about dying. When he saw people dying and bullets flying above his head, he said, “God gave me courage.”

Regret? No, God forbid. On the contrary, it was a heroic act. Why regret it? He is proud that he saved lives. Only God knows how many people would have died.

We live in Australia with all nationalities and sects. In our life, we never think about these things—whether someone is of a certain nationality or religion. Here, we don’t care whether someone is Jewish, Syrian, Muslim, or otherwise
Source: Twitter

Video interview here

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago

Update: Appears one of the suspects is likely Middle East/Arabic/Subcontinent background. Going to see a rise in racism for sure

Naveed Akram has been named as one of the shooters. Reports are that he's of Pakistani origin and he is Muslim.

Fortunately the guy who tackled one of the shooters has an Arabic name so my hope that's going to dampen down the inevitable response of racism and islamophobia.

[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago

Fortunately the guy who tackled one of the shooters has an Arabic name so my hope that's going to dampen down the inevitable response of racism and islamophobia.

Yeah i dont think that mainstream media is interested in that but lets hope.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

The guy who tackled him is a popular Muslim shopkeeper in the Shire (nobodies perfect I guess) and is pro Palestine so that should dampen some of the shitheads on the right.

I'm safe by the way. Bit closer than I'd have liked to have been. Shoutout to the comrades who helped the survivors, they know who they are.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

Fortunately the guy who tackled one of the shooters has an Arabic name so my hope that's going to dampen down the inevitable response of racism and islamophobia.

The christofascist death squads that the government will eventually sanction when fascists take power won't care. They will come after anyone who isn't white.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How long until we find the cia connection?

And it didn't take long to blame this on the "woke left" and totally not the white purity racists of the "Reich Right". It's not like Murdoch has much inflence in Aussie media. Fight against each other never mind the global tensions we stoke on behalf of our bribers or false flags we spring to manufacture consent for those.

Of course roman salute i-am-adolf-hitler er statue profile

I'm sure he's really super concerned for Jewish safety.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

The Romans rank up there with the Germans for all the Jew oppressing they did. Pretty weird to be a Rome guy who thinks Jews are cool. Especially Jews in Palestine. Cuz they historically had a big problem with the Jews in Palestine and made a bunch of them leave. It’s a big historical event. Lots of people remember it.

…I fucking hate history chuds

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Pretty weird to be a Rome guy who thinks Jews are cool.

Nah, they think Jews are useful in pushing their white supremacist agenda right now.

[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Also the apocalyptic types need the Jews to rebuild the temple to trigger the end times etc

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Not sure why they think it works like that. Pretty sure the big guy upstairs wouldn't be happy with the people actively trying to cause the end of the world. But then again, those same people probably think that they can trick Him into blaming the Jews for it.

[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In Christianity the end of the world is meant to ultimately be a good thing, like a thousand years of peace once the antichrist is defeated and then people go to heaven. In their view I guess they see it as doing God's will. Plus Christians having been itching for the world to end since they became a thing. It's like if the heaven's gate people just waited 2000 years.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah the Catholics have had to keep hammering down this nail every time it pops up. The logical conclusion of their religion is that the apocalypse is good, so the church had to forbid the concept as a form of heresy just to stop people from doing death cult shit.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Christianity originally was apocalyptic cult and it raise its head every time shit's going down the drain or calendar show particularly round number like 1000 CE. Church even forbid suicide, because there are a huge logical holes between "apocalypse is good", "next life will be better" and "the all-loving merciful Christ require you to suffer before that"

[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

In particular the Catholic church hated you trying to predict when the apocalypse was happening. It was fine to do art about it or philosophize about it. The minute you start to predict it they came down like a hammer. Which for at least pragmatic reasons, you make the church looks silly if you're wrong.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Though at the same time, if I remember my book of revelations stuff, "no one will know the time or the place" and it seems like any sort of attempt to "decode" the end of the world and make it happen would be at best futile and at worst actively going against any of God's plans.

Though these sorts of people do happen to "hear the voice of god" in such a way that tells them to do whatever reprehensible thing they want and it is ok because "it is god's will."

[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah there's not a lot of coherence to their beliefs. There's also a lot of predestination and Calvinist stuff. So if they try to make the apocalypse happen and succeed that was god working through them all along etc

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

apparently they found his ID on him. Very interesting that these Middle Eastern/South Asian mass shooters always seems to carry their ID on them when they go to commit a horrific crime...

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Of course, I always make sure to pat myself down and check I've got everything. Gun, ID, bus pass, debit card, phone, my CIA handler's phone number, you don't want to forget the important stuff!

[-] SickSemper@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

Yeah surely being one of the good ones will make society less racist

[-] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago

Horrifying scenes. That video of the bloke that tackled one of the gunmen is one of the craziest things ive seen. What an absolute hero.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 42 points 2 days ago

Ahmed al-Ahmed is the name of the guy who tackled the gunman. It's going to blunt the Islamophobic response that will come in response to this attack.

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's going to blunt the Islamophobic response

You're more optimistic than I am. I fully expect the media will bury the tackler's identity and most minds that fact does manage to reach, it'll slide off like they're teflon.

[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago

Yeah absolute legend. What a fucking nightmare. :(

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 2 days ago

But who will stop the bad guys with the guns?

[-] moss_icon@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

First the Yom Kippur attack in Manchester and now this… horrible all around.

I find it nerve wrecking to leave the house these days because I can no longer tell if when someone tells me there was an “antisemitic incident” if it was just a pro-Palestine protest or if my life would be actually in danger if I went anywhere near Synagogue.

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

Sadly that's exactly what Israel and Zionists wants by conflating these incidents.

[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago

I'm going to guess the shooters were white supremacists with incoherent ideology '

They were targeting Hannukah celebrations allegedly. So you could have Nazis or some sort of ISIS adjacent terror cell.

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago

Two different flavors of fascist reactionaries.

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

I thought this was somewhere in the US since shootings are so commonplace here.

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

No, it's really unusual for a shooting incident like this in Australia, we have maybe 1 a decade.

And every time except for the first one, it's been used to stoke racism in this country.

[-] Spike@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Letter from Rabbi Schlanger to Albanese:

Dear Prime Minister Anthony Albanese,

As a Rabbi in Sydney, I implore you not to betray the Jewish people and not to betray G-d Himself. This land was given by G-d to Abraham, then to his son Isaac, and then to Jacob, to be the eternal homeland of the Jewish people. Throughout history, Jews have been torn from their land again and again by leaders who are now remembered with scorn in the pages of history. Today, you have the opportunity to stand on the side of truth and righteousness. By rescinding this act of betrayal, you will not only honor the Jewish people and our heritage but also align yourself with the word of G-d. Should you choose this path, you will be welcomed home with open arms and even a warm Shabbat meal. I congratulate you in advance for the courage to do what is right and to stand firmly against this act of heresy.

With hope and prayer, Rabbi Eli Schlanger Sydney, Australia

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago
[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Link is broken. Here's the base that seems to work.

More than one shooter. Long guns.

[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

Fucken hell.

[-] Spike@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Well TIL there's a pro Israeli synagogue in Bondi

[-] Spike@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

https://events.humanitix.com/chanukah-by-the-sea-2025

The event organised by Israeli's Ovel Avraham Synagogue in Sydney

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Christ that footage is harrowing.

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