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[-] etherphon@midwest.social 65 points 3 weeks ago

Well easy answer is Taylor Swift, she's a fine singer but not amazing, samey lyrics, like the McDonald's of music. Is she a band? Idk. Agree with KISS.

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[-] Kcap@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine Dragons, ugh, music designed for car commercials and 8th graders, fucking rip my ear drums out.

[-] metaphortune@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'd just add that I think part of their popularity comes from their "safe" image. You put on an Imagine Dragons song, you know you're getting a pretty apolitical "pop-rock" song, not like those dumb hippies from the 70s or those indie-rock losers. Which I think sucks, to be clear.

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[-] harmbugler@piefed.social 31 points 3 weeks ago

Coldplay.

Their music doesn't move me in any way (except to turn it off). Can someone please point out any good bit of any song? I'm willing to try, but everything I've heard for years is just musical mush.

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

We at least got a goated meme from them…

[-] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

Coldplay is a band where I can recognize that there is talent, but I just cannot like them. The songs "Clocks," "Yellow," and "Viva la Vida" are good. Outside of those, I just don't like them.

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[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

Their songs The Scientist and Clocks are emotive and memorable. Besides those they sound like a safe and watered-down mid era Radiohead.

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[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 weeks ago

KISS was mediocre rock at best. They have a few good songs. They are/were stage performers. Same with Gwar. Same with Insane Clown Posse. And KISS have done a lot to entertain their fans. They’re fine.

Most popular music is popular because a lot of people like it. I never much cared for Taylor Swift, but I decided to try her new album. I pay for music streaming, so it didn’t cost me anything. Turns out I really like most of it! Listened to her previous album and it doesn’t hit the same. So I’m not a Swiftie after all. Same with Kendrick Lamar. He was doing the Super Bowl last year so I listened to his latest album. I still play GNX from time to time.

Find what you love but don’t yuck somebody else’s yum.

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[-] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 weeks ago

Not exactly what you're asking, but Nickelback was a passing good rock band with several great songs. How they became the punching bag of bad bands I'll never really understand.

[-] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

They are like vanilla with vanilla sauce on top.

They are "radio rock" personified.

[-] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 weeks ago

So you're saying they defined a genre

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[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly my thought, Kiss is like royalty free muzak rock.

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly, also if you ever seen their photos in magazines from back in the 70s, they would have Pyro and spit out fake blood. If you never heard any of their songs just based on the visuals, you would think they were some deep disturbed hard-core metal but when you listen to their songs, it sounds like something you would hear on Sesame Street.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 14 points 3 weeks ago

It was only really Gene Simmons that gave that vibe. I mean, ones a cat and another has a star.

[-] henchman2019@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I bought this album (Meatloaf, Bat out of Hell) back when you went to record stores and flipped through albums and bought something because the cover looked cool. I was already listening to Judas Priest, Iron Maiden.. I was like wtf is this. Never understood that genre. And yeah, kiss sucks too.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago

Theatrical rock. Big outside the US. A lot of Americans don’t seem to dig it.

The fact that people acted like they didn’t know what he wouldn’t do for love tells me all I need to know about the haters. He spells it out pretty clearly. He won’t move on and fall in love again. He’s an immortal who fell for a mortal woman. She asked for all these things he could do. Then she said after she dies he should find love again. He said that’s it, that’s the line I won’t cross.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

They only heard the radio edit, which completely cut that section of the song where he spells it out. Radio didn't want to play a 12 minute song.

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Meatloaf is a classically trained opera singer, and wanted to make rock ballads. I can understand people not getting it. Bat out of Hell II, Back into Hell was where he really hit his stride.

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[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

If anyone says Rush, I will find you....oh yes, I will find you.

[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Rush.

(Just saying that so you pop by, and we can listen to some Rush together, maybe also some Yes, Hawkwind, Floyd, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, early Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Dream Theater, Fleetwood Mac, and Golden Earing's Radar Love.)

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

I’ll say Rush, too, if it can get me in on this action.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

hype? Pretty much any because hype is almost always artificial.

But fans? I can't say any band/performers don't deserve their fan base. You pull the crowds that need what you're making, so you inherently deserve them.

I can say that some fans do over hype the talents of what they like. It's perfectly okay to be a middle range musician, and it's perfectly fine to like them and recommend them exactly as they are.

Like, backstreet boys. Solid pop boy band. Had some great songs, but most were just okay pop. None of the members can really be compared to someone like Freddy Mercury, or Pavarotti, or Marvin Gaye, but they all had good voices to some degree or another and used them well. But their fan base back in the day was all about the hype, the fannishness of it. So they got hyped way beyond what they were.

That's the curse of a lot of pop performers, and it is the curse of teen/tween targeted pop for sure.

A lot of that kind of performer has to totally undo their family friendly (which is a bullshit term to begin with) focus to ever really grow musically. Look at pretty much every Disney escapee for examples. Timberlake, arguably the best example of someone escaping that trap without having to piss off the original fan base, still drags some of that curse with him while producing some very good pop music.

Now, KISS? Since that's the example in the post, I think you run into the trouble of hindsight. At the time they gained their initial popularity and success, they were a damn great live band. A KISS show back then was something most people had never seen, and the hype was justified

But they suffer from the success curse. Other people took what they did and did it better. So now the hype is essentially all nostalgia, so it feels out of place. Legit, go back and check out footage of their live shows and compare it to the standard rock bands of the same eras. It wasn't until they went full idiot and tried to abandon the makeup (and all that went with it) that they lost the thread. At that point, they kept trying to summon up what they'd lost and never regained their mojo. At this point, a KISS show just doesn't do justice to what the hype says. It can't, because it isn't the same band despite being mostly the same people.

But they were always mid tier songwriters (even the ones I fucking love were mid tier compared to a band like The Band that I tend to enjoy less).

So, that kind of thing is why I don't jump on hype or shit on hype. It's usually artificial, and it's also usually generated by dint of numbers. So hype never carries well.

But it's also why I never object or care about someone like Taylor Swift having a massive fan base either. She writes and performs for her target audience. She does that very well, no matter what else anyone thinks about her. Any pop performer is trying to do exactly that. Even niche subgenre performers that are actually trying to sell their music try to find a way to target a fan base (even if it's only people that would object to being called a fan base).

I would, at this point in my life, also say that at least checking out hype can be worth it. Even if you don't like whatever it is, you've shared something with other people, and that's a net positive. Plus, you might run into a few songs you do like from someone you don't otherwise enjoy (like shake it off from Swift for me)

For me, it's Oasis. When they reformed recently to play some shows, it was headline news across the UK.

They're an okay band, but far from being anything special.

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[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago

Sex Pistols. Don’t get me wrong I like them, but they were children who made one album and were barely a band for a year. Their hype really comes down to the story of Sid and Nancy’s deaths.

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Ghost. It’s just not metal. You can be into it and I’m not going to judge you or anything, but just stop calling it metal, it’s arena rock. Sticking feathers up your ass doesn’t make you a chicken.

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Same thing with Avril Lavigne when she first came out I remember a lot of people on TV as well in my personal life would call her the queen of punk no, she is not punk just because somebody wears leather arm guards and has a shitty attitude doesn’t make you punk.

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

You just don’t get it, man, punk isn’t about rebellion, community, individualism, and anti-authoritarianism, it’s about wearing ties with wifebeaters and singing about boys!

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[-] helix@feddit.org 15 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Why is it always KISS? People are making the mistake of treating KISS as musicians. They are showmen and good at their job. The music is just the background. I saw them live once and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

Also, KISS is enjoyable to listen to. I'm not putting on headphones, taking my choice of medication, and having a transcendental experience.

I'm Shouting Out Loud. I'm Lickin' It Up. I'm Rock n' Rolling All Nite (and Partying Every Day). I'm Detriot Rock City...ing.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 3 weeks ago

If they put in the work establishing themselves, composing and playing music, recording, touring, and attracting a fan base, then they deserve every bit of it.

I can't stand Kiss, and about 90% of all the other bullshit out there, but its not my place in the cosmos to harsh someone else's buzz about the music they like. My tastes are extremely eclectic, and only a tiny percentage would be into the same stuff I'm into. I wouldn't tolerate criticism of my musical tastes, and I'm not about to criticize someone else's.

Like what you want, WTF should I care?

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I think anther reason why I don’t like kiss is there fans. As an example I have a coworker in his late 50’s and he is a huge kiss fan. But not just he is a fan YOU have to be a fan too or he will be mad at you. You can’t say that they suck or he will yell at you like a child. And his whole wardrobe is either kiss, Harley Davison, or Trump.

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[-] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

Basically any 80s hair metal. Never understood how any of those bands were even considered listenable. If it has to be just one I’ll go with Motley Crue.

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[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Kings of Leon? Nickelback? I'd also suggest Right Said Fred, but AFAIK they've always been derided and I'm Too Sexy is a meme at this point.

Like legitimately, I'm Too Sexy is a song you could rick-roll someone with.

[-] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Steven Patrick Morrissey. Fuck him and his whiney bitch voice. He's also an asshole.

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[-] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

Nirvana... And I say that as a pretty big fan of them. I have no idea how they became the biggest band in the world. They were really really good, but I'm surprised by how much commercial success they had.

There weren't a lot of radio friendly songs. Nobody knew what the lyrics were. For all the bands that try so hard to be commercially successful, Nirvana didn't try much at all and still succeeded.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I saw them here, before they got famous. They did a big tour in a white van, played a bar here with a crowd of about 30 people! Bought the last shirt from the hands of Kurt, I had absolutely no idea they would get famous, they were so far from anything getting played on the radio. I only knew about them because my brother's friend gave me a tape with them, Mudhoney, Tad.

Swear to God I cannot predict to save my life but live a few years in the future. You could have knocked me down with a feather when they got famous, and I think they were just as surprised.

I agree with you. They were good but not great.

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[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

Grateful Dead
Yes they are very good musicians. Yes some good lyrics & songs.
But Christ are they overrated. I usually went to their concerts primarily to stock up on acid
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[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago

Christ are they overrated.

Overrated in what respect, though? What are critics / fans saying about them that you feel is over the top? For me, they were a significant folk rock band and cultural experience that formed a kind of haven from the world at large. They had plenty of groovin', pleasant songs & jams that I could sincerely recommend, but I'm not really sure in what way they might be "overrated."

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[-] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

TIL that Taylor Swift is a band.

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