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Europe already is. Most countries are unwilling to even consider reciprocal tariffs and continue to call for nobody doing anything at all. Completely unwilling to oppose the US in any capacity.
I dont really know what Europe's redlines for supporting or going along with the US are. France has tried to be more independent for a long time. The UK is more happy to be a lapdog. Germany rarely goes against US interests. I can't say Greenland, of all things, is what would make the EU throw its own weight around - then again, why would the US bother besides sheer egoism of a handful of people on top? They had plenty of great deals already in place, they had bases and the right to make as many as they saw fit, they already had essentially all the benefits of colonization with essentially none of the downsides because Denmark was the paper holder of Greenland's colonization.
A war over Greenland is the stupidest thing I can think of, why shouldn't it be the thing that kicks off WW3 in this late stage of stupid capitalism. Regardless, the Greenlandic people should have their own independence and autonomy and as far as I know theyre majority in support of independence so this should all be a moot point anyway
I can't say Greenland, of all things, is what would make the EU throw its own weight around
Well, the United States unilaterally annexing a Western European country's territory is a fairly brazen shattering of any illusions Europe still has of Westphalian sovereignty.
Euros be damned, hopefully it wakes the CPC up to this particular disillusionment.
Don’t hold your breath
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A smart thing about this rhetoric is the way it is blatant abuser-speak and that is very comprehensible to many people. After an insult which is objectively minor (arguably imagined), flying completely off the handle and throwing a violent fit.
You don't need to understand anything about international affairs to know that a person like this will react in extreme and unpredictable ways to even small frictions. So the safest thing to do is to placate them. Avoid setting him off.
A lot of people were trained since childhood with this relationship model so it makes sense in a gut way.
It's kind of the major basis of most US "diplomacy"
It's so grating to me to see someone be so flippantly evil and also just anti-intellectual. This is what passes for rhetoric? The whole game is just this battle of wills like it's a shonen battle anime. There is no context, truth, or inquiry. Just butting heads until someone wins. "I gave you a rhetoric, now give me what I want."
Reminds me of everything I hate about corporate.
Rolling over implies they were ever anything other than on their back ensuring the US boot has an adequate tongue polish shine.
"We don't really value cash, Kardashian lips and fake boobs, very highly. Actually, you can not even own land in Greenland. You can get allotment for your house, which you own the house on top of the land," she revealed.
“We know Trump has surrounded himself with, white power people, and we are not white. We are people of colour. We know our rights would likely be taken away,” she added invoking the current condition of American domestic politics.
Greenland sounds pretty based actually.
Actually, you can not even own land in Greenland.
And there's the problem. There's billionaires behind Trump and himself, drooling over all the untapped investment opportunities. They don't care how they get to them, as long as they get to invest and excavate all this beautiful rich land and it's people, it's all the same.
France and England have their own nuclear programs. Host your nukes on Greenland cause as everybody knows the only language that the west speaks is unimaginable violence.
Only France, the UK relies on the USA for the missiles to be functional.
Lmao
Really? How? I really don't know and want to learn.
https://cnduk.org/resources/trident-us-connection/
Trident is reliant on the US. Without approval from Washington, the UK could not use its nuclear weapons system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_(UK_nuclear_programme)
(UK government think tank source) https://www.chathamhouse.org/2025/03/uks-nuclear-deterrent-relies-us-support-there-are-no-other-easy-alternatives
Unlike most US allies in NATO, the UK is officially a nuclear weapons state, and therefore less reliant on Washington’s nuclear extended deterrence guarantee. It has its own nuclear weapons system, Trident, which is based in Britain and ostensibly operates independently.
However, Trident is closely linked to the US’s nuclear programme, raising concerns about its independence. The missiles are US-built, and the system relies on the US for maintenance.
As said ostensibly only the prime minster has to give approval to use Trident, however in reality because most of the system is built whole or in part by the US they are required for it's continuous upkeep to be operational and could remotely, or from their bases in the UK, prevent them from working sorry for the reddit comment link the info contained therein is in the legit sources I posted and others but this comment puts it succinctly if you don't feel like trudging through a lot of technical info)
lmao, SNP finally got rid of Trident.
The prophecy that was revealed to me when I was tripping spheres at glasto(was also working there the week before and after, setting up and tearing down stages, I'm not boogie enough to buy a ticket lol) and saw this 
is coming true!
spoiler
Although I'm afraid it heralds the coming of 
rather than socialism
Luxemburg talked about socialism or barbarism, but she failed to consider this.
Thanks for the awesome reply!
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The USA going to war with NATO, meanwhile the global south: 
I actually don't think Europe is going to this time. Denmark might have, but France cannot without compromising its independent foreign policy, which they won't do because it will threaten their already shaky hegemony on West Africa.
I actually don't think Europe is going to this time.
If Trump really wanted it, he'd just have to say "give us Greenland or no more US energy for you". Europe would be dead in the water.
We are experiencing a very cold winter right, gas storage is as low as it ever was. No more Russian gas, it's the US or bust. And the funniest thing is, this was entirely self-imposed - they got rid of evil Putler gas while saying, "we don't want to be extorted by RuZZia in the future", even though Russia, of course, never did that. Trump the bully just needs to "use energy as a weapon" and it's over, lol.
That's true of Germany, but if Denmark triggers the mutual defence clause and France (which can probably manage on nuclear and other gas sources like China, Canada, Australia etc) agrees, then the other countries will be dragged in or the EU will shatter. I suspect if the EU doesn't cave they'll need to pivot towards China and renewables supply as well as manage an end to the Ukraine conflict.
What will probably happen is that this will further weaken a disunited EU into multiple camps. Many of us have been predicting the EU to fracture within the next 10 years or so, and that might even be a conservative estimation with the way things are going.
the French already want to use the Anti-Coercison Instrument which on paper has some very serious teeth that could hurt US firms---tripping it could very well spiral this farce out of control
I'm guessing 2-3 more days
The only country with their own nukes in EU is France
Are they really going to stand against US imperialism? I don't know about this
this kind of thing used to require being bolstered by 40000 armed nazis and direct geographic proximity
One possibility is that they just throw Trump some bone and he gets distracted and the whole thing kind of blows over until it's brought back up some time in the future (because of Russia fearmongering or whatever). They will point to the current affair and use it as an excuse to just hand over Greenland without much internal opposition.
Right now? This whole thing is too useful for generating nationalist sentiments in Europe. Many European politicians probably want to milk this in some way, and use it as an excuse to increase military spending (which could even be one of the concessions made into pleasing Trump). I guess, it would be something like a variation good cop bad cop?
I've seen all the libs I keep tabs on blaming Russia for the whole Greenland thing, they're usually very good little stooges, believing whatever their masters in Washington want them to, regardless of if they are European or American or Australian, so it does seem like they're trying to use this to build anti-Russian nationalism, at the moment it seems to be "Putin is tricking Trump into wanting Greenland" and it will probably become "The US had to take Greenland to keep it safe from Russia."
Right now? This whole thing is too useful for generating nationalist sentiments in Europe.
They might certainly try, but this is already a defeated nationalism. Russia will wreck Ukraine this year - they already have - and it will be a huge disaster for Europe. One for the history books for sure.
At the same time, Trump might take Greenland, there's certainly no stopping him if he really went for it - sanctions, troops, nukes, won't matter. Europe will get a nationalism born out of defeat, with half the world laughing at them for years (not that they haven't earned it!).
This can't be good.
No it won't be good. Defeated nationalisms in colonial countries are always a breeding ground for fascism.
Surrender?!
The only things rolling in response to that will be eyes
After the US bombed nordstream 2 the EU is completely reliant on the US for energy demands. If the US wants to escalate this there is essentially nothing that the EU can do short of war, which it is never going to do against the US. They will probably begrudgingly capitulate eventually as the US could economically destroy Europe.
This is ironic, given that Russia was always very fair with gas, even during the Ukraine war they continued to supply Europe with gas, even while Europe supplied Ukraine with weapons they continued to be fair.
The US will leverage this position. Europe is completely reliant and does not have sovereignty in military, weapons, energy or technology. The US is going to be a far bigger bully to Europe than Russia ever was as a fair trading partner.
I am European for the record. I live in the UK, where our country is acting as pathetic lapdog because it too is leashed and essentially a vassal state to US interests. This first wave of tariffs against the UK for disobedience is essentially the US disciplining their dog.
This is ironic, given that Russia was always very fair with gas, even during the Ukraine war they continued to supply Europe with gas
I think Russia is counting on this to force on an eventual re-alignment of Europe towards Russia and away from the USA. Russia would prefer to have a friendly Europe to whom they sell fossil fuels. But if that doesn't work out, they would be satisfied with a Europe squeezed out of primary inputs and suffering from industrial collapse, and a USA disengaged from NATO.
The status quo from before the Ukraine invasion was kind of the worst of both worlds for them. Sure, they got the revenue from energy sales, and they had some alignment with Germany... but it all had the effect of simply powering Europe's industrial capacity, and did nothing to stop US economic and covert warfare against Russia. The Ukraine invasion seemed so confusing and counter-productive to me when Russia launched... but I can see now that strategic nudges were just not going to cut it anymore, and they had to shake up the strategic situation. (not that I think they were expecting such a long and grinding war).
The nordstream bombing really demonstrates that the USA knows exactly the game being played, and that they have a correct assessment of how much they can fuck around with European leaders before they'll really break.
I think Russia is counting on this to force on an eventual re-alignment of Europe towards Russia and away from the USA.
Yes, lovely idea - but there are no Russia-friedly politicians in power anywhere in the larger EU countries to make this a reality. The entire EU establishment is solidly anti-Russia at this point and will be for years - especially once the disaster in Ukraine becomes more visible in the future.
Just imagine the non-binding resolution they’ll pass in the EU parliament.
Letters will be written like you’ve never seen. They shall CONDEMN this very sternly.
Rolling eyes where?
That's probably true. Europe will collectively roll their eyes while Trump takes Greenland. They certainly won't put up any actual resistance against it
This can’t be fucken real
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