What's the point of satire if it can't keep up with how bizarre reality has become?
That was a thing during the first Trump administration. Comedians were complaining because anything Trump did would immediately be pale in comparison to what he did next. Just one really stupid thing after another.
For my next act - nuclear holocaust!!
Satire right now is funny when it's normal.
LOOK, A DAY WITH NO NEWS, HOW FUNNY
I remembered now, but the simpsons had a really creepy island themed episode over 25 years ago, and i feel it belongs to this conversation now https://www.unilad.com/film-and-tv/news/the-simpsons-creeps-island-epstein-matt-groening-prediction-638780-20260206
They need an episode with a disclaimer the whole time that this actually happened. It wouldn't be a fun episode though.
Like their Episode about Scientology?
Cartman should freak out about it while no one else cares.
Then Stan tells him they won't be held accountable and it's never brought up again.
Alternatively, Cartman is in the files (because Epstein used his paint the walls in shit revenge service to prank one of the actual visitors to the island) and when told he can make the girls do anything he wants, he gets one to make fun of Kyle on video, where he is clearly being an asshole to her.
And Butters is also in the file because they tried to recruit him after he went viral for What, What, In the Butt, which Cartman latches on to and spends the whole episode trying to help Butters clear his name (so that he can clear his own name in the process).
Also Randy is on the list because he was trying to get them to sign Tegrity Farms up as their official weed supplier and he spends the episode trying to supress the information entirely but gets Streisand effected hard, leading to the follow up episode where Trump tries to pin the whole thing on Randy (and everything else, too, and starts bringing up shit that isn't even public). In the end, Randy gets "one of the harshest punishments ever given to a rich person": a fine for $3.50, and everyone realizes that it wasn't a judge presiding over the case, but a 3-story crustacean known as the Lochness Monster and the episode ends with everyone getting together to yell at Nessie (and the incident is never mentioned again).
There's enough material for a whole season.
Couldn't they just animate literally any white house press conference and call it a day?
Yes. The show has been writing itself since 2016.
It's kinda been writing itself from the very start. There are always enough weird, funny and fucked up things going on to make episodes about. I think it's just harder now because of how quickly everything happens and how much there is to choose from.
Theres a super cool documentary call something like 6 days to air where you see the creative process of a south park episode.
The tldw is that they start with nothing on the Monday and write, animate and record the whole thing by the Saturday air time.
I mean, the oval office meeting where Trumpy pooped his pants is a good place to start.
ngl I miss the days of Mr. Hankey and Mecha Streisand.
Now that "Anti-woke" ideology has been revealed as a psyop by the Epstein files, I'm very curious to see if Trey Stone and Matt Parker will choose to reckon with their own contributions or if they'll double-down.
Anti PC culture was already around for a long time, it just got tossed into overdrive with the 4chan Epstein stuff, they're pretty self aware though, so we'll see
Yep. I remember the film PCU quite well. It was a very nineties sentiment in some circles to push back against "political correctness." IIRC Matt and Trey at one point had to explain to people in the early days that they weren't conservatives, it was just that they felt that "liberals" tended to be easier to make fun of most of the time (particularly self-righteous celebrities).
This meme looks like those scummy mobile game ads lol 😂
All it's missing is the little x that brings up the app store instead of closing the ad
Yeah, like, what'll they do with all that "eating infant intestines" material.
Life has become too surreal to have any hope of parodying. I've "eaten the onion" at least 4 times in the past 12 months.
Eating the onion is when you believe satire is real, what is it called when you see real and believe it has to be satire?
At this point it's called cope.
lol ive never seen this version of the mining meme
Honestly, fuck those assholes. They played a non-insignificant role in getting us where we are right now with their "enlightened centrist" both sides, edgy 4chan humor bullshit
so they write an episode about some of their classmates getting abducted to be used at krasnov's pleasure dome? that is not a fun episode to write.
they already wrote an episode where some of the kids met up with adults because they thought it was something else (and it was actually some adult shit)
Edit: Episode name of “Cartman joins NAMBLA”
I sure hope whatever they come up with will be better than AI slop.
TBF that ~~AI~~ video of Trump trudging through the desert is top tier.
Edit: I'm wrong, it's not AI
It was mostly practical effects afaik: https://www.thewrap.com/south-park-how-naked-trump-scene-was-created-not-ai/#:~:text=Many%20assumed%20after,was%20it%20practically
Many assumed after the “South Park” Season 27 premiere aired that its entire climactic sequence was created using AI. The new BTS images, however, reveal that not only was it practically filmed, but the micropenis featured in it was really Parker’s finger.
Haha that's a great pic
South Park sucks now. Kyle and Stan said that, and since they are Matt and Trey, i don't think they enjoy writing this crap. It's that they can't stay silent about it, so I personally think they hate that. And I hate it too, everything about Trump makes me want to vomit.
Whenever they take on real world stuff, they're incredibly smug and sanctimonious about it. This has been the case since the start, and I can't say I've ever been able to get past that.
I don't think so, I think that sounds like some criticism from someone that doesn't have anything real to criticize.
People like that suck too, like at least be decent to wait to find something with merit to ctiticize, just pushing through some ad hoc criticism anyway is annoying. I mean, how is it sanctimonius of them to critique current events? How is that any more smug than the person criticizing them for being smug for the crime of lampooning current events?
More than likely the criticizer is a dick rider of someone they are making fun of, without anything real to criticize, but a social media following and perhaps a contract for pr.
I don't like South Park because of that smug, sanctimonious tone either, but my housemates love it and regularly leave re-runs playing for background noise as they go about their day, so allow me to offer that same criticism from someone that has seen every episode multiple times and can offer something "real" to back it up:
The long arc of the South Park plot follows Trey and Parker's political development from bitter, unknown California Republicans with sarcastic, nihilist tendencies to disillusioned Big Hollywood Conservatives with sarcastic, nihilistic tendencies being forced to reckon with the fact that their past attempts at satire have either had no impact or have actually reinforced the perceived social ills they pretend to mock.
Al Gore's portrayal in S22E06 "Time to get Cereal" exemplifies this, even after he is proven to have been right about ManBearPig all along, this later appearance shows him as still being a huge weenie that cares more about being acknowledged as having been right than wanting to actually solve the problem. Having belatedly acknowledged the existential threat, Trey and Parker still can't bring themselves to issue a call to action, and everything goes back to normal after they kick the can a little further down the road.
Thus, the smug, sanctimonious tone has been a constant throughout, as if they still imagine that the greatest sin is caring about things. They're so heavy-handed about it that they lampoon this aspect of their own show in Kyle's "Don't you see," and "Y'know, I've learned something today" closing monologues. Even when he's telling a real political truth, like in the banned S16E06 where the text of the monologue is an admission that terrorism works and the subtext is a refusal to acknowledge their own contributions to post-9/11 anti-muslim discrimination in America, Jesus (representing mainstream American Christianity) gives falsely-sincere advice to the gingers (who represent all minority groups facing irrational discrimination) that they just need to get as violent as the most aggressive extremists so that people will respect them. Which is itself a smug, sanctimonious, and sarcastic way of suggesting that they can never be respected as people, only either seen as lesser or feared as an enemy.
I haven't seen much new from them. But calling them republican for criticizing al gore belies faullty logic.
For the crime of contending the campaign was more for personal gain is probably an accurate critique to a large degree. It often is with these aristocrats. Just like Robert Kennedy here, he doesn't believe this shit, he's playing them, it's his thing, they all do it, none of them are authentic.
I never got the impression they were sanctimonius themselves, simply lampooning, mimicking, satirizing our society would come across like that however if one wasn't able to make the distinction, because our influencers are. The ones I've seen it's clearly satire, like they are making fun of the characters' naivety and simpleness as they are in society not themselves moralizing to the audience.
Stone said in 2001, regarding his political views, "I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals." When asked about that quote during a 2010 interview, Stone stated: "We don't want you to come to it thinking, 'These guys are going to bash liberals,' … It’s so much more fun for us to rip on liberals only because nobody else does it, and not because we think liberals are worse than Republicans." In 2006, Stone described himself as libertarian.
A 2001 Los Angeles Times article described Parker as "not overly political" and quoted him as saying he was "a registered Libertarian". In 2004, Parker summed up his views with the comment:
What we're sick of—and it's getting even worse—is: you either like Michael Moore or you wanna fuckin' go overseas and shoot Iraqis. There can't be a middle ground. Basically, if you think Michael Moore's full of shit, then you are a super-Christian right-wing whatever. And we're both just pretty middle-ground guys. We find just as many things to rip on on the left as we do on the right. People on the far left and the far right are the same exact person to us.
I feel like you're a bit too emotionally involved. It's just a cartoon, calm down.
Anyway, to clarify my comment, which I thought was brief and to the point enough that it was easy to grasp, but apparently not for you: I don't think there's anything wrong with covering current events or lampooning stuff. The way south park does this is sanctimonious and smug, to the point where I find it a bit hard to watch.
You are doing a Cartman on here, projecting and slandering emotional arguments knowing passing commenters don't know any better than to take your "side." Yet your argument doesn't make any sense, and no number of half-wits agreeing with your half baked emotional slanders changes that. Your argument was without merit, and you have an ulterior motive for it, one you don't want to share. You are playing the sheep.
You also use slanders elsewhere don't you? Accusing the writers of south park to be transphobes without evidence, and everyone watching the show of running cover for them. That forces people to go on the defensive, so that's a fun one for manipulators. It is harmful to those groups to make false allegations like that though, lessening the value of them when the accusations are real.
They're making the big bucks. Theyve regularly tried to get the show cancelled with that joke of "South Park Sucks Now" they even got the hashtag #cancelsouthpark trending on purpose. If they really wanted to walk away, they could. But they just keep coming back with more and more ridiculous demands for pay and they keep getting it.
As far as I can tell, they are genuinely good folks who use money and influence to do good. After taking ownership of Casa Bonita, during the renovation period that followed, they said that they will still pay the existing employees, but only if those employees do charity work while the place is being renovated. Mat and Trey make money but they don't seem hungry for more. They also renewed a deal with Paramount; but when CBS tried to cancel Colbert so that the duo's parent company, Skydance, will have the Trump admin approve the merger with CBS, Mat and Trey unabashedly criticised their company without fear of cancellation and despite having just signed a renewed contract. They were not punished nonetheless and if even if there have been, I believe they will stick to their guns.
I guess you are right. It's just about the money now. They already made the deal, so a lot more lazy episodes will be coming.
I don't think we'll see that. They're making it how they want, I think they're just at the point they're saying "make it worth my while"
I seem to be the only one confused by this - what leak? Is it just a typo?
A leak is when something is released without authorisation? So far the only information is authorised releases of the files with lots of stuff redacted, and allegations there is more being held back. Has there been a leak too?
There were a couple instances where they accidentally released unredacted versions of files before they realized and replaced them with redacted versions, but that's all I can recall off the top of my head. One instance of that occured last week.
I think there may have been some documents released without authorization before, but I can't recall when, just a vague recollection.
There was some that were "redacted" ie the stuff was blacked out but you could highlight and copy/paste it.
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