118
top 42 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] djdarren@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago

Hol' up: You guys even have to pay for medical treatment for your kids? What kind of fucky shit have you got going on over there. Stop that.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 7 points 1 month ago

Id ask why you'd think our kids would get any special treatment but I'm too used to hell I guess

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

They say Pro life but fuck over the poor kids after they're born.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

Dude, you have to pay for EVERYTHING in America. They already charge us to put air in our tires, if they could figure out how to charge us to put it into our lungs, they would.

[-] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

Well, with how many were killed "accidentally" during the removal of homeless encampments in the past couple years, we're kinda at that point aren't we?

Fuck...

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Why aren’t people having families? It must be the porn and the queers. That’s the only possible explanation. Yessiree.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everything else aside, why the fuck can they garnish 35% of a low income worker wage. If garnishing is a thing, there should be some kinds of means testing based on income that makes it a sliding scale that is substantially lower than 35% for a McDonalds worker.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I recall reading something about some states either trying or succeeding to bring back debtor prisons.

[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

I personally don't accept the 35% as a 100% true and pure fact, without some citations. However, the percentage obviously isn't the point here, so I wouldn't get too hung up on the exact number. Even if it was 3.5%, this general situation is still inexcusable.

For the record, most places limit wage garnishment for debts at something like 10% - 25%. Certain types of debt, like student loan debt and medical debt, are often lower or on the lower end. And lower income, with higher costs like having children, can also reduce the max %.

[-] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Child support used to take a full half of my income. So, I can believe it.

Day I got the letter saying I had fully repaid that shit?Fucking brought me to tears.

[-] Xella@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

In my state it's up to 25%, you can guess what % is chose every time. Ask me how I know, currently losing 25% each check right now. It hits hard.

[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Last I checked near me, these guardrails exist, but I’m sure in some red state they’re allowed to garnish wages for medical debt with no restrictions.

[-] BillyClark@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

Similarly, if you're accused of a crime and you're poor, you might not be able to afford bail money, so you'll be stuck in jail and you'll inevitably lose your job, ruining your life, regardless of whether you're guilty or innocent.

Meanwhile if you're rich and an Epstein co-conspirator pedophile who raped and sex trafficked children, the government won't even arrest you.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 month ago

Meanwhile if you’re rich and an Epstein co-conspirator pedophile who raped and sex trafficked children, the government won’t even arrest you.

In fact, the government will do everything it can to protect you!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

the hospital went to court to garnish 35% of her wages. She works at McDonalds.

Not that I question the unsourced anecdotes of the God account, but I'd be genuinely curious to see a business that thought an astronomical legal bill would be worth garnishing the wages of a service sector worker.

As someone with family in the legal profession and the medical billing profession, it's crazy to think of the cost-benefit of pursuing this kind of claim given the return expected. Hospitals write off millions a year in "bad debt", because collection is consistently more expensive than the real value of these claims.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Can hospitals still sell their debts to third party collection agencies? Those groups seem like exactly the type to garnish McD wages.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Collection agencies will buy hospital debt at pennies on the dollar. And then collection agencies can try to annoy you into paying. But they have an even weaker claim on your debt than the original hospital. Getting a court to agree to garnish wages is a drawn out process. And it can be easily circumvented if you quit your job and take up employment somewhere else. In the service sector, that happens so routinely as to make wage garnishment a fool's errand.

[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've had my wages garnished from an ambulance trip. 18Y/o me was insanely confused when HR pulled me aside to let me know.

They ended up only getting a few hundred Bucks, how could that possibly have been worth it for them? In any case if they would do that to me it wouldnt surprise me to hear they do it to others as well.

John Oliver bought a bunch to forgive if I remember correctly.

[-] Carrot@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

My brother in law had a medical bill that was supposed to be covered by insurance, but they didn't pay. (A small-ish bill of a few thousand dollars) His bill was sent to collections, and they hounded him for years, despite him having in writing that the insurance and hospital both agreed that the insurance was supposed to cover it. After 8 years, they started garnishing his wages. This is when he decided to get a lawyer involved, and he was able to successfully sue the hospital for garnishing wages illegally. The hospital had to pay out 30K.

All that to say, hospitals aren't always acting intelligently or legally.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

How did they garnish his wages without having a court involved? They would had to have sued him already in court.

[-] Carrot@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

I think he was served papers at one point around the 3-4 year mark, but just told the hospital he wasn't going to pay since they already had agreed in writing he didn't have to pay. He never went to court. I don't know the exact process, it was never explained to my brother in law, but given they had a valid, unpaid bill of 8 years (and multiple attempts to get him to pay on record) was enough?

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's a default judgement then. If you're served, you need to respond, or else the judge declares in favor of the plaintiff.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

They send it to collections, collections hands it off to a lawyer who files in court, court sends a beer date, person can't afford to take off for the day, so court issues a default judgment.

The system does not care about one's circumstances if one is too poor to advocate for themselves.

Add a dash of depression, anxiety and stress and this is a very believable scenario for anyone who is even of adequate means.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

collections hands it off to a lawyer who files in court

Lawyer sends the collections agency a bill for 10x the collections amount.

[-] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

This is what I think truly turns people into law breakers, I won't say criminals. When the system works against you, why work with the system?

Low income people get pushed down so hard for trying. I'm am not at all surprised when they turn to illegal income to just try to have a little piece of what other people are born into.

All her children are learning that lesson. They are learning "No one is going to help you and the system is only there to hurt you."

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You don’t have to think it, we have plenty of evidence. The best way to fight crime is to fight poverty but that requires actually caring for others.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The sad thing is that it doesn’t even require caring for others.

It’s in everyone’s best interest to reduce crime before they become victims therefore it’s in your best interest to fight poverty.

The wealthy may be insulated from the consequences of their choices but surely the other 99% vote in their own best interest, right?

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yup. Honestly, I don’t like most people. I’m known as very friendly and I have close friendships, people trust me, and I do have sizeable groups of people I like but 95% of the population I do not and will likely never want to be anywhere remotely near if at all possible…

…AND YET I still want everyone to be better. I still live in a city and I still willingly take and support public transit despite owning a car. Today, I gave a homeless guy a protein shake for him and treats for his dog. I gave someone I detest my gloves during a fire alarm which put us all put in the cold because they couldn’t get to their jacket before leaving. I do NOT understand how their can be people so full of hate that they not only have literally violent reactions to other people existing but that they will hurt themselves in order keep others from even a small amount of peace. It’s honestly a huge stress point because how the fuck are things supposed to progress if that’s how so many people are?

[-] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

The root is fear. Convince people to be afraid of something, they will let you completely reprogram their mind. Fuck, they'll even beg you to do so...

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And homelessness is illegal now so I’m sure the system will inevitably end up imprisoning her and forcing her to preform slave labor in a for profit prison and she will have her children taken away and placed into a system that will abuse and exploit them until they age out and end up in the for profit prison system as 80% of foster youth do The system is corrupt from top to bottom. Nothing will improve until the pedofile parasite class fears the masses

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 1 month ago

For profit prisons are a problem, but they're not the main problem. Only about 8% of prisoners in the US are in for profit prisons.

The real problem is state run prisons and the contracts they give to for profit businesses.

[-] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Oh, the real problem is slavery is still legal if you're incarcerated. But, I don't disagree with you, either.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The real problem is the system is corrupted from top to bottom and we need a revolution

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

One of my good friends about a decade ago had this very argument.

The right swore to everyone that hospitals can't turn you away, they have to treat you and if you can't pay for it they'll let you out of it.

I was working healthcare adjecent at the time, I'm telling him Fuck now, that's not how this works. It is a possible outcome.

If you walkin homeless, they might get you to the point where you're stable and set you free, but as soon as you have a kid there and you have to give them an ID and a name, your chances of being fucked go up 10x

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Yet then if you are a mother and don't take your child to see medical care you are accused of child neglect and have them potentially taken away or you go to jail because you couldn't afford to take them to the hospital.

[-] michaelalf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

My Son broke his arm (type 3 fracture) last week. We went to our local ER and were seen immediately. We ended up spending 3 nights in hospital and having multiple surgeries to pin and correct the break. He's on a 6 week care plan with scheduled appointments with a specialist team.

Want to guess how much it cost us? $0 (or 1.5% bracketed tax of my income per year) b-b-but that's socialism!!

No we don't have fancy private health insurance, we just live in a country that doesn't punish it's citizens for being poor.

The USA needs a revolution.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well you see, not having good insurance shows god's disfavor. It's all part of his mysterious plan that those with insurance were going to get cheated further out of their agreed upon insurance plan, and the government to be paid off by that insurance to allow it.

So while we, as Christians, especially Evangelicals and Calvinists and Baptists and the like, would love to help the poor, doing so would be to defy god's will. It was predestined that we were to be selfish assholes actively trying to hurt the poors in every way.

The Prosperity Doctrine and social darwinism decree that they are poor because that's the way god intended for it to be. I am a wealthy selfish prick because I have god's favour. Tough break. /s

[-] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago

What the hell country is this in? Aren't ER visits free?

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 month ago

You have one guess and 3 letters to work with.

[-] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago

There are like 200 countries. How am I meant to know about the healthcare of all of them?

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 1 month ago

You can't even venture a guess as to what country is being talked about? A country whose news is so frequently posted on Lemmy that entire communities exist to be free from it?

this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2026
118 points (99.2% liked)

A Boring Dystopia

15988 readers
67 users here now

Pictures, Videos, Articles showing just how boring it is to live in a dystopic society, or with signs of a dystopic society.

Rules (Subject to Change)

--Be a Decent Human Being

--Posting news articles: include the source name and exact title from article in your post title

--If a picture is just a screenshot of an article, link the article

--If a video's content isn't clear from title, write a short summary so people know what it's about.

--Posts must have something to do with the topic

--Zero tolerance for Racism/Sexism/Ableism/etc.

--No NSFW content

--Abide by the rules of lemmy.world

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS