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Some old autistic people unfortunately masked by developing an obsession with hypernormalcy.
that's a lot of autistic reindeer to herd.
Man it's almost like society is broken and not our brains.
Some people are broken. They’re the narcissists and psychopaths and people who refuse to address their trauma(having trauma is fine, doing nothing about it and making it everyone else’s problem is less so) who we keep handing power to for some fucking reason.
"Those who seek power, rarely deserve it. And those who deserve it, rarely seek it."
See also:
Before there were trains, there were the ships.
Before there were ships, there were horses.
And I know what you're going to say. Yeah, but before there were horses there wer-NO. Nothing existed before horses, and I'll hear no more of that slander anti-horse talk.
Reindeer, apparently.
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Its still so upsetting that they send him to the doctor who was like, “that thing that makes you happy and does not hurt anyone”, lets help you stop doing that.
A cured man doesn't continually say how much happier he was before he was cured
I think he was curbed
He might have been neglecting other responsibilities.
But yeah he hopefully could have kept it as a hobby!
But was he actually cured, or did he instead just get better at hiding his compulsion?
That "in this way he was cured of his illness" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting there. I'd bet that the method used could also be described as torture until he agreed to stop or acted like he no longer wanted to.
I wonder how much faith in doctors came from vague references like this that only talk about the outcome and skips over the fucked up shit they called "treatment" back in the day. Makes me wonder if many people at the time saw doctors for the "knows a few things about some herbs and setting broken bones but otherwise is just a scam artist that might kill or maim you for no benefit" they were.
And the sad thing is that a lot of doctors these days are still like that; their body of knowledge is better than back in the plague doctor days, but if a patient strays into unknown territory, they often keep up the "I'm an expert in this" front while talking out of their ass (often an indirect accusation of just trying to get the pain meds they used to push, or some other brush off).
I immediately thought of this, and you beat me to it. Honestly it seems to be a very nuanced account of autism. It's certainly unusual but bro got great joy from watching ships and people only found it a bit odd.
I think this is a good reminder that traits we label one way today could have been real strengths in different contexts. Deep focus and strong memory would’ve been incredibly valuable skills in many ancient communities. It’s all about perspective.
So I get to endlessly catalogue stuff and be around creatures who don't judge me and, best of all, I don't have to deal with any humans.
Sign me up baby
and in the times you must speak to a human, it's someone who's coming to you deeply interested in your big tree diagram of reindeer
So I get to talk at a rapid pace without any pauses whilst going into incredible detail about reindeer????
Stop I can only get so excited.
My brain skipped over "herder" the first time and I was very very confused.
Rudolph, the autistic reindeer.
Well, if autism exists in animals (pretty sure i've heard that it does) i bet there are savants especially talented at communicating with humans.
They're called Labrador retrievers.
That would be awesome. :)
World is full of pet owners gatekeeping the knowledge of their pets who speak full sentences
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Reindeers are better than people. Sven, don't you think that's true?
Sven is more of a Germanic name, in Siberia reindeer herders are definitely not speaking Germanic languages.
Poor Sven. I have a daughter and son and I thought the way sven was treated in part 2 was so shitty, like they almost went out of their way to say “fuck this man, this is a woman story”
I love female centric movies but this one felt mean. He was fully supportive and trying to help and they ditched him, ignored him, treated him like he didn’t exist. And all he could do was take it cause if he complains he an asshole right?
Again I have a son as well, so I don’t like when a movie has to elevate one gender or person by stomping on the other.
Edit: mixed it up I meant Kristoff, Sven is the reindeer
I don't think I saw the second one. At least I don't remember it, but there was a time I got drunk and binged a bunch of disney movies so it might be buried in there somewhere.
But yeah that's not surprising. Media depictions of gender relations tend to be pretty terrible. I wish they could just depict both genders in a positive light instead of playing into this duality one male versus female.
Like, women's empowerment doesn't have to mean treating men like shit. Even the classic feminist philosophers didn't view it that way. But for some reason these past couple decades there's been this huge push to sort of invert the patriarchy instead of abolishing it.
I've tried pointing that out and explaining how egalitarianism means equal footing, but people just call me a redpill incel nice guy or whatever. I could say something along the lines of "This gender war is toxic and there's gotta be a better way" and they'll go "What gender war? There's no gender war! You're toxic for even thinking there's a gender war."
Sigh. I'm tired, boss...
You may be answering to the wrong comment
It's a line from a song, the reindeer's name was Sven. But yes, I did think about that after I posted my comment...
And honestly even the reindeer herders in Scandinavia are probably mostly Saami, so it would be more accurate to use a Finnic name anyway...
Totally went over my head, sorry
Ancient people had to remember/memorize a lot more things just to get through their days, before writing existed.
Yeah, prehistoric life is sometimes portrayed as simplistic, skipping the fact that hunter-gatherers knew the landscape and all plants, grasses and animals for kilometres around. Kim Stanley Robinson's novel ‘Shaman’ does a decent job of depicting what life in those times might've been like.
Granted, I instead memorize my city's streets and organization of my computer stuff.
"Was that rock always there, or was it disturbed by a predator?"
"Hmm. That rock I remember, rough sandstone, 25 sides, angled south-east. I'm unsure of its neighbour though with rough sandstone, 25 sides, angled south-south-east."
It takes a village to survive. Some to remember the exact differences between safe, fun, and deadly mushrooms and others to turn predators into prey.
And some stay up all night to watch the fire and be the guard when everyone else sleeps. And some see and remember the weather patterns and can tell when it's a good weather and when the winter is going to come. And some look at the stars and the moon and can always remember and tell the directions where to go. And some know all the animal tracks and know all the animal sounds. And some smell and taste a lot better when things are funky, so nobody dies. And...
@fossilesque This does not surprise me at all. I used to work in the horse racing industry and there were legends of stable managers who had memorized the genealogy of the horses going back generations. Supposedly, these are the people who guided the horse breeding once upon a time.
I initially misread that as 'gynecological and medical history' and it put an entirely different and quite unpleasant spin on the whole story.
What?! It gets lonely herding reindeer!
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