People fucking hate AI now, surely talking about humanity as if they are a bunch of livestock will turn that sentiment right around.

train a human

This guy has the same level of empathy as Zuck.

And humans also built the fucking power plants and pay for the energy they use, asshole.

by this logic AI has also used the knowledge of 100 billion people and has the same starting energy debt as a person. with the added bonus that it can't actually create anything new. Even their dumbass arguments can't stand under their own weight

I can outperform ai while being powered by a bag of cinema popcorn, sit your bitch arse down

These people fundamentally do not think about human life in a normal way.

Someone on Bluesky pointed out that, even if you ignore the morality of this argument, AI is trained on human content, so if we're going to start examining the human energy cost, we'll have to factor in the cost of every single human whose work was used by ChatGPT on top of the data center costs.

Maybe we could use altman to fuel the ai? As charcoal?

Idk maybe we should do something about this man.

Altman, Thiel, Musk, et al, need to be headed to the gallows.

Oh good, the Bitcoin argument.

"Sure, Bitcoin wastes a lot of energy, but you know what else wastes energy? The Visa payment network."

Yeah, but Visa handles six quadrispillion transactions per megawatthour, Bitcoin handles two drug purchases. Not the same results, is it?

So yeah, training humans takes a lot of energy. But in the end, you get a coherent, capable and well functioning individual. Spend the same energy on training LLMs and you get a system that'll happily tell you to glue the cheese on pizza or something.

wouldn't let that nerd fix a paper jam. visionary hallucinations. by that logic we should all die so ai might live cheaper. amen

Oligarchs see human as disposable resources

Y'know what uses the most resources, Sammy?

BILLIONAIRES!

The humans still exist and need food, even if they are replaced by chatbots in the workforce. The comparison is therefore useless, unless you plan to murder the unemployed.

I really wish Sam Altman would treat himself with the dignity and efficiency he wants to treat us with.

The ideology of evil eugenicists didn't die with Hitler, and they didn't die with Epstein either.

There's an easy answer to this problem.

Tech bros deal in false equivalencies. In general they rely on the playbook of logical fallacies. The one they rely on most is the presumption that the technology they're trying to sell is correct by default as if it's a fundamental law of the universe. And that the onus is on others to prove them wrong. Rather than them having to prove its correctness.

They often resort to ad hominem by implying their detractors lack intelligence or they're emotional. This again draws on more logical fallacy that because they deal in technology it means they presume to own the position of being purely objective and correct by default. So anyone who says otherwise is disputing science itself.

In other words they never have to prove the veracity of the technology they're trying to sell because they divert the discourse off topic to frivolous arguments about something else.

If we ate just one techbro the other ones would fall in line pretty quickly

Chatbots aren't the endpoint tho, AGI and ASI are. Imagine a future where we could disseminate custom AIs to teach kids exactly in their unique contexts. Education could be throttled and specialized according to everyone's aptitudes.

And if the people are able to decide what future ASIs work on we could focus on massive healthcare, leading to inevitable healthspan extension. Then the rate at which we have to replace our population (and the associated spending of 20 years reteaching intelligent citizens) would be reduced as a consequence.

AI is just a tool. Tools are never rolled back, at most they're only regulated. Why not make the best of our future with this powerful tool? Just because billionaires are getting the headlines, most of the progress is being done in academia. Maybe AI will even help facilitate reduced wealth inequality.