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[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

need a variety of food to survive?

It's not true.

Boredom feels terrible while it lasts, but it doesn't kill you. In the end, humans usually start to get creative after boredom.

Oh, and yes, some food industry has found out things and told you things... yes, they were creative :-)

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

What about the British? They were starving, and they didn't get creative. They just kept eating brown goo for centuries.

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago

I had heard that British cuisine was much more robust before WW1.

Also, if brown goo is meat-flavored, I'd be down for it.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

It is brown goo flavored, and you will eat it until you are completely brainwashed into liking it.

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[-] phanto@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

We don't. Burritos exist.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Asked my GF who's an aspiring crazy cat lady:

It's because (proper) cat food is engineered to contain all the nutrients they need. While it looks like a bland mush of only one thing, it's more like the cat equivalent of having several full nutricious meals run through a blender. The required variety is built in.

[-] wabasso@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I’m convinced you could create such a food for humans too, it’s just not many people want that.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Speak for yourself, bachelor chow would solve many problems for me

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Awww shieeet I JUST got done finding a pee'n'gee. What am I gonna do with this thing now?

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[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

If you live in the US, there's soylent. They also ship to Canada, but they've been out of stock for half the dang year now...

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago

I’m convinced you could create such a food for humans too,

You could, and it would be very simple to do so.

1: Take all the food you'd eat for, say, a week. Absolutely everything.

2: Blend it. Maybe add some extra vitamins to make up for the ones that will be lost due to processing.

3: Dehydrate it. (To make it more compact and less likely to spoil.)

4: Compress it into pellets.

Done. You have now created 'human food'.

[-] wabasso@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

That’s what I find so absurd about the “humans need variety in their diet” mantra. If we need some vast unknown combination of things, how is it that letting people loose on supermarkets and choosing their own recipes somehow achieves that, compared to at least some first pass attempt based on macro nutrients?

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Because many of our modern staples are fortified with essential vitamins and nutrients.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Ok, what we'll do is, we'll take some sort of kibble, A, fortify it, call it "Vegetable Delight". Then another sort of kibble, B, fortify that, call it "Ox Fondue". Then another, just like the previous ones, call it, say, "Mystery Surprise". All fortified. Then you just alternate them. Mondays, A. Tuesdays, B. Then Wednesdays you think C but nope! A again. Then B, then A, THEN B, and then, finally C, so you have something special to look forward to on Sundays.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

We also get cravings for specific foods when our bodies are lacking in a nutrient that food contains. I don't think we have them for every nutrient our bodies need, hence why people can get nutrient deficiencies by accident even when the nutrient they need is available, but there's some instinctual failsafes for certain ones that must have been scarce or intermittent enough for cravings to confer an evolutionary advantage.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Pemmican! We should be eating pemmican.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Blending it is pre-digesting it which means it doesn’t travel our bodies quite the same way.

We have long digestive systems for a reason.

I’m not saying it isn’t possible but you’d probably shit funny for a long time

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

There are powdered meals that are supposed to offer balanced nutrition. I've heard of people living off Soylent, Huel, etc. I don't think it's good long-term, and the lack of chewing could cause problems. But it is feasible in principle.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I ate only soylent for a long time, and the lack of chewing did cause me some issues: first was bad oral hygiene. I brush and floss twice a day (after breakfast and before bed), yet I still got a cavity. Chewing normal food also cleans off plaques on your teeth, so when you're not chewing anything those plaques just sit there fucking your shit up. Second (*and this is just my conjecture) chewing causes activity in a certain part of the brain to spike, so if you're not chewing anything that part atrophies and causes depression. I forget where I read the chewing part though. So, along with the cavity, I also felt generally sad about everything. I would still definitely have it for lunch everyday because the nutrients are there, but yeah, unfortunately you have to chew stuff. I thought about just chewing gum, but those are all chock-full of microplastics so...

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[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

That's true, but we're not cats.

It's can be difficult to change a cat's food. You have to gradually introduce the new food mixed in with the old food, or the cat may just refuse to eat it.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Oh ho ho ho. They will eat. Eventually. Then they get more. Then they complain it's not enough.

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[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

You as a human could also live with the same food every day if it covered every dietary need. Especially if you depended on someone else to acquire it and had no choice.

There is an evolutionary push for a rich variety of nutrients obtained from a variety of sources, but the mechanism driving that daily "need" for variety is force of habit and desire for novelty. On top of that, some people are happy to eat nothing but junk and have very narrow tastes. How come?

Also, I can assure you, a lot of cats will periodically stop eating a certain brand or flavor and go through cycles. Does it mean the food isn't really covering their needs or are they just bored of the same flavor every day? Hard to know, but I would argue your assumption about humans being too different from their pets when it comes to variety in their menu.

[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago
[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago
[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

How can I survive off of that, if they're out of stock for half the year? ;-;

[-] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Buy double in the half year when it is available

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Usually can't afford that much upfront, wish I could tho.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

We do not "need" a variety of food. We eat it because we can afford it and it makes us healthier and happier.

[-] mycatsays@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago

My current cats have Opinions (capital O) about what is or isn't food. I tried giving them variety, at least in flavour. They don't want it. The want one specific brand of fish-flavored wet food (in jelly, not gravy). They'll eat some kinds of fish-flavored kibble if wet food isn't available. Anything else, they have to be pretty desperate.

At least they both like the same stuff! But the lack of variety is 100% on them, not me.

(My previous cats would eat most things. These two are just weird.)

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Animal food is usually balanced to contain all the nutriens the animal needs, or most.

Ofc if it's proper

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Daily reminder that pet food is a more recent industry and before it existed pets mostly ate table scraps.

[-] The_Almighty_Walrus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
[-] OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

....why the fuck did i waste time reading all that

[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

My guess: Cats might get everything they need nutritionally from one meat source. Humans need a more diverse diet.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

We don't need a variety of food to survive. But, generally, we have choice, so we choose to vary our diet because it's more interesting.

Pets do not have a choice. They eat what they're given. Or they choose not to and die (a lil cat I was sitting chose that route).

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

I have a low burnout rate with food, and there are probably meals that I could just keep eating repeatedly. Note that these are multi-ingredient foods so could theoretically offer balanced nutrition and be flavored to a preferred taste.

I don't do so for several reasons: cost, availability, convenience, sharing meals with others who have different food preferences, and simply because I still prefer variety.

[-] Pirat@lemmy.org 2 points 1 week ago

Wildcats (tigers, lions, bobcats, etc) will take down a prey animal. We think they just eat the muscle. In reality, they often go for the stomach of the herbivore they just brought down to get the vegetable matter there. Then they eat other internal organs (liver, spleen, kidneys) so they aren't just eating muscle.

For our pets, well, we all know they don't eat the same thing every day. Firstly, the the thing they do eat every day, pet food, has various nutrients included so it's a balanced meal for them. Secondly, we give them treats which may or may not be beneficial.

As for we humans wanting variety, it's exactly that. We want but don't need as much variety as we get. We enjoy the different flavors even if the items containing those flavors aren't exactly good for us (twinkies, 8 year scotch, etc). Our pets and wild carnivores don't get the opportunity to try these other flavors (well, our pets get some opportunity but not to the extent we have granted ourselves).

[-] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 week ago

There's that tech bro that has a super strict diet for longevity. Its basically enough protein for him and veg, fruit to fill out the rest of his calorie goal along with some supplements. I wanna say Bryan or Ryan Johnson. its basically same everyday with a workout plan to live as long as he can.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Cats and similar animals are adapted to specific environmental niches, but humans are generalists. One of the drawbacks of being generalists is that we’re not specialized enough to fully subsist on any single food source.

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

We can definitely subsist on a single food source if it's been engineered to be nutritionally complete like pet food has.

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago

Kongbap says nah, it's all you need to survive.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

They keep making solya t/bachelor chow...

Nobody buys it.

But you can 100% meal prep something and just eat it everyday as long as it's got everything balanced. That's what pet food is. It's not like there's an animal whose flesh is cat food, it's processed and fortifiex

[-] DeepThought42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Not sure that's a universal thing with cats. Unless she's really hungry, the current feline resident of my household most definitely will turn her nose up at a dish if it's the same as she was fed in the last meal.

[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

How is it that I find everything cute when a cat does it?

[-] GiantChickDicks@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

There are lots of dogs and cats who crave variety in their diets, too. Like humans, it's a behavioral thing rather than a nutritional necessity. My shepherd will simply stop eating regularly unless I vary her diet. I usually have three or so options I rotate through to keep her interested in eating. Lots of people add toppers and mix-ins when they have dogs like mine, but I find that only increases food rejection, as smart pups learn to hold out until we sweeten the deal enough.

I worked for a pet food manufacturer, and it amazed me what customers would do to try to entice their picky pets to eat. One guy was giving his dog lasagna, and he was shocked that his dog didn't want to eat kibble anymore. Imagine that.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

If you think about it, for the past hundreds of thousands of years we've been regionally locked in our areas so variety is a loose term.

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