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submitted 2 months ago by sbv@sh.itjust.works to c/canada@lemmy.ca

The truth is that homes deliver enormous non‑financial value — stability, community, belonging. Those are reasons to buy. But as financial assets, they come with structural constraints: They are expensive to maintain, difficult to trade, impossible to diversify, and usually purchased with significant leverage. The investment component is real but volatile, and its return path can be long and uneven. For home buyers now facing losses, this is not an individualized failure. It is the predictable outcome of society promoting an undiversified, illiquid, highly leveraged asset as if it were the ultimate life goal.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-the-myth-of-homeownership-as-an-investment-is-wreaking-untold-damage/

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 months ago

Pass a law that corporations or businesses cannot own family dwellings and BOOM!...rent decreases and purchase opportunities throughout the land.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

I haven't seen stats showing businesses own a large amount of single family dwellings or apartments in Canada. Individuals seem to own a lot of condos for investment (with businesses owning a bit less).

Do you have stats showing corporations owning a significant portion of Canadian real estate?

[-] Killer57@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

This article is 4 years old chances are it's in full swing by now.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

I just deal in gut feelings and hunches. Sorry, no numbers for you.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

I will never understand why Canadians think their shit doesn't stink.

Is it the cold? It's the cold, isn't it?

[-] Mika@piefed.ca 22 points 2 months ago

Like, then don't buy it as an asset, buy it as home? Its not like people can just wait for some 20 years without home for crash to happen, and crash would likely be tied to some event where everyone loses their jobs or banks fall of whatever.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

The run up on housing prices forces most Canadians to put too much cash into rent or home ownership. I think the piece is more pointing out there's a problem. The fix has to come from policy makers, not individual buyers.

[-] saimen@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Reminds of the people worrying about their car "losing its value". It's a car. It's a utility. I will use it until it falls apart. That's It's value.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

Which is why I like the Japanese home loses value over time approach.

[-] maplesaga@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Japan had the same problem as Canada before they rezoned housing federally for density, wiping out hundreds of miles of single family homes to build highrises.

If you see a aerial view of Toronto there really is no city, relative to most metropolis in the world.

https://www.stockaerialphotos.com/media/08759b93-8ae3-4841-bbd1-cd2886594e0a-toronto-skyline-2016

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago

Wonder if high speed commuter trains could solve chunk of this issue without destroying homes just to put up high rises elites will keep empty like in NYC.

[-] TheDoctorDonna@piefed.ca 17 points 2 months ago

It's almost as if homes shouldn't be a commodity.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Homes aren’t a commodity, they’re a depreciating asset. Land is what has real value in our society, and this is a cultural development dating back to Enclosure in the Middle Ages. We realized back then that if you don’t own your own land then you are effectively a slave paying rent to someone else for the privilege of having a roof over your head.

I’ve seen other solutions proposed around here, such as government ownership of housing where we all pay rent to the government. What I don’t get is how people can say that with a guy like Trump in power. Do you want Trump to be your landlord? That sounds horrible!

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

OMG three pieces from the Globe about Canada's fucked up housing policy and how it's screwing us.

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

If they are done boosting it, you know the housing crash/long winter is incoming.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure the Globe has had thick pieces about the housing crisis since the run up before COVID. And they've been calling out our shit productivity for decades.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

Right... And rent prices are stable? Jesus fuck. At least try to draw a comparison.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You need shelter. You can pay money and have nothing at the end, or you can put it into equity. Owning a home is the best investment you'll make in your life. The maintenance costs are trivial. Beg, borrow or steal whatever you need to afford the shittiest little thing you can afford and upgrade later.

House prices going down in Toronto are not a reason to ignore the value of home ownership. They're an opportunity to get yourself out of rentals. This author is on drugs.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

You need shelter. You can pay money and have nothing at the end, or you can put it into equity.

I generally agree, a home should not be primarily thought of as an investment.

It's a roof over your head that you have more control over than if you were living in a rental.

And after a period of time, you actually own it and no longer have to keep paying someone else for the privilege of having a place to live.

[-] farting_gorilla@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Minor nitpick, most places (US-specific) have property taxes you have to pay every year, so even if you own your own home, you're paying something to someone every year for the right to have a roof over your head.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

You're also (indirectly) paying those same taxes if you are renting, so it's not really a deciding factor in favour of either housing option.

[-] farting_gorilla@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I'm not arguing either way with that, just pointing out that our current system (in most of the US at least) demands that you pay someone to live no matter how you do it

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Well, yeah, but the amount you're paying goes down dramatically after some time if you're buyer compared to renting.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

We need shelter, but our governments have stopped ensuring it's attainable.

Tax policy encourages people to treat their home as an investment by exempting it from capital gains. Other tax policy has made the construction of rental units less attractive to developers. Our federal, provincial, and municipal governments stopped building affordable and low income housing. (There's also the zoning/NIMBY crap, but that's been discussed to death)

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

Owning a home is the best investment you’ll make in your life.

Sure grandpa, let’s take you to bed

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Sounds like your grandpa didn't pass on his brains to you.

[-] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

He did me one better. His hard work paid for some financial literacy so I’m grateful

[-] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

90+% of people in China own their own homes, and a lot of that is apartments. Not treating housing as a financial instrument doesn't mean "everyone rents"

[-] fourish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Value is not living with in-laws. Priceless.

[-] kablez@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Cries upside down (Australian)

[-] baka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

The myth of homosexuality as an extension is wreaking untold damage

[-] maplesaga@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

The Federal government is currently buying half of all mortgage bonds to inflate prices with cheap debt and printed money, as new housing minister who ruined Vancouvers housing market Gregor Robinson says housing is an investment.

Don't elect liberals if you don't want the poor to be destroyed by a regressive home prices.

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