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Panasonic has said demand for backup batteries is rising quickly, and it is largely driven by the expansion of AI infrastructure that requires stable, continuous power. It has already allocated around 80% of its planned output to existing customers, leaving only a limited share for new buyers attempting to scale systems.

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[-] funkajunk@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago

So everything at this point?

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 30 points 1 month ago

Anything it takes to set up a data center. I bet network cable is next.

[-] esc@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago

Fiber optics jumped 4 times in price locally.

[-] funkajunk@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

BUY BUY BUY

[-] oce@jlai.lu 29 points 1 month ago

Yep, literally the whole habitable layer of our planet.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

They‘re going full tech feudalism. There will be a shortage of everything. Especially of electricity and clean water.

[-] disorderly@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

I wonder if there's going to be a point in the future where we all look back at this massive over-investment and kick ourselves for making so much expensive electronics waste.

[-] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 month ago

They learned nothing from the NFT/"Metaverse" hype cycle, but a century of hindsight might help. There's always going to be that golden goose that can make you insanely rich based on vague bullshit a lot of people don't fully understand.

[-] Damage@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago

Some entities have too much money to invest in stupid endeavors, money that they took from everyone else and they can lose without worrying too much. It's a rotten society.

[-] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Well yeah but money now.

[-] EonNShadow@pawb.social 16 points 1 month ago

Hopefully soon - I'd love more homelab upgrades

[-] Korkki@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

I for one are going to go shopping for used parts.

[-] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

Stop selling stuff you haven’t made yet to people who have no money and haven’t paid. Wtf is wrong with businesses these days?

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Why would you think there is anything wrong with them? They now get to scalp people with outrageous prices for the 20% they are selling. If the AI sloppanies pay, they made big sales. If the slop producers producers are unable to pay, they will sell the reserved stuff for normal or even slightly elevated prices. It's win-win. Basically an excuse for industry wide price-fixing.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The point of capitalism isn't "make a widget/sell the widget/to a customer" anymore, it's "create market value/sell the value/shareholders are the entire point." The widgets are just a prop in a way, the customers an abstraction. If it's making money, if it's growing above 3.5, we worship it. If it's growing at thousands of percent, then it's a god who cannot be stopped. Everything else just supports this - government, social programs, people's life and death and joy in between - that's all an abstraction. Shareholder value is the only thing that matters.

This is why we must restrain capitalism with regulation, but it's too late, it's metastasized into its final form now.

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[-] Lanske@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago
[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

It will burst the same way the dotcom bubble bursted.

Just like the internet, AI will be here to stay.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Comparing the dotcom bubble to the AI bubble is like comparing a corn kernel to a corn cob at this point.

The US economy was more spread out and varied back then, and the bubble wasn't over a third of the entire economy.

And you know, the internet actually had market value and was producing profit immediately at least. AI still has yet to turn any profits.

[-] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago

AI wouldn't be so bad if the planet wasn't being turned into computronium.

[-] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

0 productivity increase. 0. Once this bubble is over the clean up will set us back years and that is if we're lucky.

[-] Angrydeuce@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

That's the part of all this that truly blows my mind...nobody wants this shit. You dont even need to be a technophobic boomer to fucking hate dealing with AI when youre trying to get an answer to a question that isnt something you can find on wikipedia, like for example, "How much will this particular software license cost me if Im installing it on two host VMs serving approximately 200-250 concurrent users?" The AI isnt gonna answer that right...I know it wont, because Ive spent at least 2-3 full fucking 10 hour days in aggregate playing this stupid fucking game as phone lines are getting closed left and right and I always end up running in circles until it will even permit me to get an actual human fucking being involved, if that is even a possibility, which 70% of the time, it just dumps you to an email and a wait for a response email that also didnt answer the fucking question.

And the thing is...its getting harder and harder to opt out. I cant even vote with my wallet because its either deal with the AI trash, or deal with some fly by night company that no one has ever heard of and goes radio silent for weeks when they cant fix a problem in 3 minutes.

This is gonna make me sound old but I saw this coming 25 years ago with self checkouts. Look at what a piece of shit the average self checkout is. Just last weekend the lines at my local grocery store were out the fuckin door because all the self checkouts somehow decided the cart itself was an item in a cart that wasnt scanned and thought everyone was stealing. Rather than get humans on the checklanes and shutting the self checkouts off, the store just had an extra person at the self checkout to enter their code after literally every single transaction to bypass it. Im talking rows of 20 self checkouts that had two people that had to code through every single transaction. Human cashiers wouldnt have had that problem, but human cashiers cost money, so better your service as a customer suck fat ass then bring in a couple teenagers extra to cover some weekend shifts on a register.

I see this at the doctor now with their self checkin machines that take fifteen minutes to get through what you could do with the person in three. I see this when trying to ship a fucking package and the machine runs out of labels and theres no human being for miles around to put more in so you can get on with your life.

This shit fucking sucks, and they no longer have any incentive to improve, because theyre all doing it, so everybody sucks, and we just get to deal with it.

Remember this when you see the lack of savings being passed on in lieu of all the payroll theyre saving. Every minute you fight with AI to answer a simple fucking question, some oligarch is screaming CHACHING!!!

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Except AI in its current form is actually mostly useless.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Some form of "AI" will always be around. It has been around nearly as long as we've had computers. We've even had AI chatbots since 1966.

But, the dot com bubble is a bad comparison. If you look at a graph of Internet users over time you can barely even see the dot com crash. The Internet was a massively useful phenomenon and more and more people kept using it. The dot com crash was basically an overestimation of how quickly people were going to adopt it combined with a massive drop in the value of Internet-based ads.

What's much more likely with AI is another AI Winter where a few things stick around, but mostly AI goes back on the back burner for a few more decades.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Another 2008 crisis and not being able to find a job or afford simple necessities, no thanks.

[-] j4yc33@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago

The just in time economy is running a little bit late.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I'm tired boss....

That joke aside, does anyone else find swapping out UPS batteries bizarrely satisfying? Every time I heft one of those APC rack batteries and slot em in, I walk out of the server room with a smile on my face!

Fuck, maybe I need to answer the call of the void and work as a tradie XD

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

i used to go in there and fart

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] 4grams@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

You have got to be goddamned kidding me. Literally this weekend I said to myself “time to get a UPS”.

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

I mean it depends on what you're used for a UPS is. The smaller ones can still be had on Amazon for under $100 and if you hurry you could still get that pricing. But by the sounds that those ones are going to be jumping way up in price for no reason because literally those are useless to anybody in the Enterprise level. Unless they're being used at a desktop level which they do tend to purchase pallets worth of but this is more along the lines of Enterprise server level UPS's.

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[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Burn all this useless crap down

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

All this for what? AI Big Becky diving videos?

[-] TheHotze@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

This might not be the worst thing, if it results in better stationary batteries. Unfortunately they will probably just keep using lithium ion.

[-] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

don't most enterprise ups use lead acid?

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago

We use rack mounted LiFePO for some of our network nodes that don't have local facility provided UPS. But I do notice Lead Acid often as I visit various small datacenters. My guess would be that Lithium is still more niche

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Yes yes they do. In fact most UPS's from small desk ones all the way up all used lead acid not lithium ion. Lithium ion batteries are far more expensive.

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yup. My old job had liebert (now vertiv) UPSs for our data center and those suckers were essentially just thousands of pounds of lead acid batteries stacked in a metal chassis

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Feels like 2007

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