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Edit: holy shit I turn my head around for one second and I got 40 replies? THANK YOU ALL :D <3

I just rewatched Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight trilogy and following Bane's and Miranda's story made me realize that I'm a bit saturated in regards to playing as the hero, the protagonist, the "good guy" in PC games. While I love saving the world as much as the next person, I'd love to play as some perhaps self-righteous villain, or antagonist, or simply somebody portrayed in a way that's meant to make the player sympathize with questionable morality or, at the very least, be conflicted about why you suddenly find yourself rooting for them.

I'm mostly looking for story driven open world single player games, but any recommendations are welcome. :)

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[-] Yesbutnotquite@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Shocked to see no one's suggested Tyranny yet which is an isometric RPG where you specifically play one of the bad guys. Yeah you can make some "good" decisions but ultimately, you're a foot soldier for the bad guys. It's got plenty of that conflict about what's right and wrong that you're looking for too!

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

I admire Tyranny from afar, but I think it'd depress me too much.

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

I thought so as well but it was pretty funand the plot lines are versatile.

You can enslave the younglings, you dont need to murder every one of them however delicious they may be.

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[-] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Disco Elysium's protagonist is a walking disaster and there are a lot of ways you can play him. Honestly playing him as a totally morally upright professional is one of the harder ways to play. You definitely don't feel like a hero while you're playing

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Honestly playing him as a totally morally upright professional is one of the harder ways to play

Oh so I was just playing it wrong lmao

[-] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's a little spoilery to say but the game tries to force you to learn that lesson. Trying to be a good cop and being straight edge is pretty frustrating. Then once you take a morally gray choice and it advances the plot, you use some drugs to meet a check and there aren't really consequences. Then by the end of the game you're high on 4 different drugs punching children and you understand the point they were making

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[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

Not even one mention of Prototype. What have the world become.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Prototype. Man. What a fucking BLAST that was. The super powers you had by the end of the game combined with the techniques you could use.

Surfing corpses, eating people alive to clone their appearance. Slicing, smashing, or just tearing apart tanks. Throwing cars. It was just absolute mayhem and I doubt we will see another game quite so unhinged.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, when Activision still make good and innovative game. Prototype is a rare gem that escape a lot of people's radar somehow, despite that game selling quite well back then. I blame the name.

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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Factorio, you literally colonize alien species and pollute their worlds because you feel like it.

[-] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Satisfactory in the same regard as well. At first I felt bad about disrupting the natural landscape. But then I needed more power, and land for my factories. And then more land for more power for more factories on more land. It's a fun cycle.

It's like a different kind of bad guy... a real world kind of bad guy, really.

[-] Lilac@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ig mincecraft in the same vain, if you want to interact with mc villagers in any meaningful/efficient way.

To get cheap villager trades, you can traumabond them to you by repeatedly letting them get killed by zombies and then resurrecting them.

If you want your villagers so be safe, as well as have them all near eachother and sorted after traids, you build a "trading hall" where each villager is trapped in a one by on by two big area where they only have a workstation in front of them as well as a window for you to talk/trade with them. (They would probly die sooner or later if you let them run around the world freely, so building this is kinda a must if you spend a significant time getting the good villager traids, which you kinda have to do if you want good enchantments on your tools cuz all the other options to get them suck compared to villagers).

Villagers are also a good/the only way to automaticaly farm iron or crops, for crops you just trap them in a field and let them work for you. For iron you repeatedly scare them with zombies, so that an iron golem spawns, which you immediately kill in lava, so you can get the iron that it drops.

[-] SolarBoy@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, maybe not just because you feel like it.
I think the premise is that you crashed on an alien planet and need to build a spaceship to return back home?

The fact that you are destroying the entire ecosystem of the planet to do so is just a slight inconvenience.

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[-] impudentmortal@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The GTA series might be a good example. All of the protagonists of the games commit exceedingly worse crimes as the game progresses but they're made to be sympathetic since they just want success in a world with not much other opportunities.

Games with karma systems may work as well if the bad option isn't overtly evil. I'm thinking games like Dishonored, Fable 3, Undertale, or any Bethesda game.

Anti-hero protagonists like Kratos from God of War, Arthur Morgan from Red Dead 2, and V from Cyberpunk could also somewhat fit the bill.

Edit: just watched an Outside Xbox video that summarizes a few games with just this premise.

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Planescape: Torment
Disco Elysium
Prototype
Crackdown

Already mentioned elsewhere but seconding the recommendations: Infamous I and II Bioshock Infinite

[-] mortalblade@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago
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[-] observes_depths@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago

No one's said Infamous yet. Shocking. Well Infamous. You get to choose if you're going to be good or bad and it's super satisfying either way. Dishonered has that same sort of choice, also amazing whichever way you go.

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[-] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Dungeon Keeper 2

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago
[-] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

They delisted this shit from Steam right before shit popped off next to Dubai in real life.

[-] STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Eh, it was delisted a couple years ago because of expired music licenses. Game was banned in the UAE upon release though.

Still worth a playthrough. That game was the whole reason why I knew Deep Purple was a band.

And this is also like the third comment in a row I've made about the game lol

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[-] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 7 points 1 month ago

Dungeon Keeper.

Destroy all humans.

Spec ops the line.

Braid.

Manhunt.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago

Saints Row games. They're like GTA, but increasingly over the top in their parody. You're the boss of a criminal gang. 2 is still "normal parody" and a bit dated, 3 jumped the shark while doing a kickflip with a jet ski, 4 is even more insane.

Sleeping Dogs you play as a cop, but you can betray the law and side more with the criminals.

Warcraft 3 (old but gold) - the human campaign of the base game gets you from a hopeful young paladin prince into a cold, vengeful psychopath; the following undead campaign is said prince (well, king now) finishing the job of killing everyone and further fucking everything. The expansion has 3 extra campaigns, none with "good guys"

Divinity Original Sin (1 and 2) lets you play as big of an asshole as you'd like. Of the Elder Scrolls games, Morrowind is the one that lets you be the biggest bad guy around (you can still finish the game even if you kill every important npc and break every quest)

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Baldur's Gate 3. Not only can you make an evil character, one of the premades is a special evil character called the Dark Urge and basically forces you into doing things that are often even more fucked up than the basic bad guy stuff.

Most cRPGs are like that, actually. Rogue Trader is another good one. Being a paragon of good is nigh impossible in that one, since you're basically a tyrannical land baron in the WH40k universe where everyone is garbage. 😃

[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Party Hard. You're trying to murder everyone at a series of large parties without getting caught. I guess you're fed up with your neighbour's loud parties. Retro graphics. Humorous. Lots of creative mayhem.

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[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

No recommendations, but just wanted to thank you for a real good question.

[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Well there's always Grand Theft Auto.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 1 month ago

This might produce some arguments, but The Last of Us. Joel is far from a good guy. This is established in the first few minutes of the game and you get enough "hints" about that throughout.

There's actually a pretty new video about that on Second Wind: https://youtu.be/fY1FsMK_cos

Other more obvious games are many many Star Wars games where you can either choose or outright start as the bad guy, like TIE Fighter, the Jedi Knight series, Knights of the Old Republic 1+2 + The Old Republic, Squadrons, those Battlefield games and the Age of Empires clones (can't remember the names) and Force Commander as well I think. Oooh and Rebellion.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

minecraft

you show up in a mostly peaceful world and just start destroying it, enslaving villagers and treating peaceful mobs inhumanely to farm them so you can go kill more mobs that were leaving you alone

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[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Civilization. Choose Ghandi. You're welcome.

[-] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Fallout New Vegas

The number of opportunities the game gives you to be an absolute piece of shit is ridiculous.

Here are some examples:

Get the Terrifying Presence perk and literally become evil incarnate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXBC2OYLM0k

Or just level up speech and be mean in general: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STptNbHOXWg

[-] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago
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[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Carrion

It's a modern 2D pixel art reverse horror game, it's real fun.

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[-] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Had to scroll too far to find this one.

The 2nd one is better in some minor ways, but the OG is a classic

[-] MML@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago
[-] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Came back to say Fable and Fable II are peak evil path RPGs.

[-] Apeman42@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Well, I may as well keep plugging my current obsession, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader. It's a CRPG somewhere between BG3 and XCOM in gameplay, with a grimdark-flavored splash of Mass Effect.

You have 3 "convictions" that many lot of your decisions fall under. Iconoclast is kind of your standard good guy, but maybe somewhat naive trying to be that good guy in the Warhammer verse. But more relevant to you are Dogmatic and Heretic.

Heretic is pretty much evil as far as I can tell. Chaos worship and slaughter for power. Dogmatic is more like Judge Dredd, maybe? You make some harsh fucking decisions as dogmatic, like liquefying a few thousand people to power a computer you need to use, but you are doing it for what your character truly believes is the greater good of the Imperium.

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, Owlcat's previous game, has some baddie paths too. You're still fighting demons, but it's more of an evil vs evil in some cases. Especially Lich or Swarm.

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[-] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Echoing Spec Ops: The Line.

It's no longer available on Steam, but if you can find a way to play it then you should. Probably the most necessary game about war at the moment.

[-] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

The only bad thing about Spec Ops: The Line is you can't talk about what makes it so good without massively spoiling it.

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[-] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago

Some of the better RPGs allow you to play as an evil guy (equally fleshed out as the good guy playthrough), e.g. Baldur's Gate 3 (it even has a special evil background storyline called The Dark Urge) or (some of?) the Mass Effect titles.

Cult of the Lamb is also a great game where you play a cult leader. Although the game's design is strong on the entertaining/funny side, it's kind of dark also.

Stellaris is a grand strategy game where you can play anything, from a ruthless ruler trying to destroy the whole galaxy to a pacifist trader.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Spec Ops the Line is probably what you want. It's not open world, but the story is excellent.
Bard's Tale is old, but the story is fun and you aren't really a good guy.
Scarface is a GTA reskin that retcons the end of the movie to have Tony Montana live to build a cocaine empire.

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