A Fairphone with GrapheneOS would be the tops

It 👏 should 👏 be 👏 the 👏 law 👏 .

I don't know how they managed to sneak locking a system to a single boot loader. And what about Qualcomm chips? They have a hypervisor OS, you say? A small operating system that can read all your memory? Updated as firmware?

Great, forcibly open source that system as well and tell them once and for all that they can fuck off. No, you don't get to control another persons property - you disgusting goblin.

Either that, or ban the sale of such devices permanently across Europe.

Hardware should be software agnostic

Fairphone? perhaps. Samsung? hell naw. Samsung heavily benefits from the spyware it builds into One UI and 99% of its user base do not care about the spyware.
But I do hope hope that Fairphone begins to embrace Linux support.

And I encourage everyone to write to banks and other service providers to provide apks directly or through F-Droid

The idea that the Major Software Enshittificator which is Samsung would ever go along with this is incredibly naive.

Samsung was one of the first to fill their smartphones and tables with tons of useless "Samsung" software that can't be removed by normal means, and even people who had their older and less insanely stuffed with junk devices got them forcefully filled with that crap via updates (making their older devices unusable, "incentivizing" them to get new ones).

Samsung hasn't been consumer friendly for at least a decade.

I wish we have more choice for linux phone

I remember the GrapheneOS team saying that they won't bring their OS to Fairphone, because the Fairphones don't bring hardware support for security measures the GrapheneOS team doesn't want to compromise on.

Fairphone should focus on helping the Linux options move along, no need waste resources on GOS, just another android ROM

Long term android should die off in place of Linux but its a long road

Have UT running on a Nord phone, they have made good strides over the years, appreciate their dedication

Fairphone and samsung are absolutely not the same kind. I want to point fairphone is officially distributing /e/OS which is a niche of 2-3 brands. This company that is nowhere in size close to samsung also engages hardcore in device repairability making its phones be a flagship. If anything just let them be successful and tempt others to follow their lead. I would love graphene os to be better supported but just don't put all the strain on the one doing good. (I type this from my FP6 /e/OS)

Both tantalizingly close with respect to GrapheneOS. I wouldn't expect Samsung to ever support the other two, but their phones are supposed to have every security element GOS expects. Only problem is that Samsung wants to make their own walled-garden ecosystem a la Apple.

I do remember reading somewhere that GrapheneOS are open to someone making a GSI (generic system image) port that would work with phones like Fairphone, which GOS don't want to officially support due to a lack of security features. I wonder if anyone has started work on such a thing.

It would be nice to buy a phone that officially support GrapheneOS. I dont want to thinker with phones. I can image it is going to be the same experience as going from Windows to Linux. Things would actually work in a good way as a user wants to instead of locked down requirements.

Samsung? They will not give a shit it huge corp

I have a newer Pixel phone and I'm comfortable installing and running custom ROMs from doing so regularly back in the day - for those who've daily driven both, what are the reasons I should NOT switch from the stock OS to GrapheneOS?

OEM's

Or just OEMs, even.

Fairphone has their own with /e/OS

Ya. Short term Motorola for Graphene, long term any that support postmarketos

How come Linux worked on desktop but on phones it is having such a hard time even tho Android has the linux kernel( i think).

Is PC hardware more open and known to everyone about everything while mobile dosent? And if that is the case then why arent phone opening itself for support?

The short term is forked android. The long term is a Linux distribution, new or otherwise. It doesn't seem reasonable to assume that the proprietary blobs in Android will get reverse engineered.

Has anyone heard word if Moto is still planning on rolling out flagship phones with e/OS by 2027 still?