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[-] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 120 points 2 weeks ago

say-the-line-bart-2

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

-John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 87 points 2 weeks ago
[-] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 65 points 2 weeks ago

Good effort, but not enough words to be a proper leftist meme

[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 40 points 2 weeks ago

Not even 3 books of prerequisite reading and study group to analyze the meme later, real amateur hour

[-] bunnossin@hexbear.net 53 points 2 weeks ago

and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath

bazinga Wrong! There is a growing vote

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 55 points 2 weeks ago

1930

2026

Nothin' changes.

[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

I'm too lazy to look up the date, but Kit Carson destroyed Navajo peach orchards sometime in the mid 19th century.

[-] Euergetes@hexbear.net 49 points 2 weeks ago

not just the heaps of unordered fruit, entire trees? god forbid you have an unprofitable season you can't find another bulk buyer, best bulldoze the orchard and be 4 years behind any future peach demand

[-] Runcible@hexbear.net 45 points 2 weeks ago

Offensive as this is it might be less environmentally destructive than running an orchard in the desert. Not that responsible land stewardship is a possible outcome

[-] principalkohoutek@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Came here to say this. The central valley agriculture model is not the model we should be saving

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yep, and as much as I love the old orchards they are way more water intensive than the modern style, and unfortunately you can’t rip up irrigation once the trees are in. So, in a way, the first step to getting betting water use is tearing all this shit out.

All that aside, motherfucking capitalism decides to do it at a time when people might be needing food and jobs. Because it sucks at remembering the human angle.

[-] gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed. Even with the newer drip irrigation systems that use less water, there is still not reliably enough water to support the kinds of farming they have

[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Also, peach trees only live like 8 years anyway, and get horrible diseases if you look at them funny.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago
[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

what if they just liek let the workers at the factories keep canning peaches and shit under their own management and just like, didn't do any of that, though

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

Just... Leave it? You don't have to destroy it. You can just... Not?

I don't see why it needs to be touched other than for the purposes of preventing people from getting free fruit. Nature will run its course with the trees either dying or becoming part of a new ecosystem once humans aren't maintaining it anymore.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Screenshot of a small part of California, roughly half covered by orchards, the other half is barren wasteland

Odds are if you stop irrigation for a few weeks you just got a bunch of dead trees.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah ok, do that then? The only reason to touch them is to prevent anyone else from using them. At least few people might consider digging a tree up for their home.

[-] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

NO! If you want peaches you HAVE to buy them from me! It's the law!

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Get one while they are ripping them out of the ground. Kind of difficult to unplant trees without heavy machinery anyway.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Odds are if you stop irrigation for a few weeks you just got a bunch of dead trees.

The only real humanitarian justification I can find for this is that a bunch of dead trees becomes a fire hazard. I'm guessing peach trees aren't native to the California desert and would likely dry out and become highly flammable within a few months.

I'm sure their reasoning is more along the lines of "my property" though

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

They want to plant something else

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