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[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 210 points 1 year ago

Summary: YOUR Ph.D. means almost next to nothing, but collectively they expand the bounds of human knowledge.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 84 points 1 year ago

Do you have to live so relentlessly in reality?

[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

As a parent to five, yes. All shall join me.

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[-] S_204@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

I know a guy with a PhD in medieval agriculture with a specific focus on cows. He's one of my brothers wife's friends.

This guy devoted his life to ye olde english cow farts.

He's struggling for employment as one might expect.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

whereas I , with my bachelors degree in clowning, have been head hunted for my last two corporate jobs.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You are now CEO of FTX

[-] Stuka@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who even funds degrees like that?

You end up with fewer job prospects than a GED

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[-] LittleWizard@feddit.de 69 points 1 year ago

A PhD is not the only way to expand human knowledge. This is disregarding a lot of work done by a lot of hard working people.

[-] Daxtron2@lemmy.ml 98 points 1 year ago

No one says it was the only way? But one of the requirements of getting that PhD is to expand knowledge so it's 100% applicable

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You might be surprised to learn it doesn't actually suggest a PhD is the only way to expand human knowledge. No one was disregarded.

[-] ShustOne@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's meant to do that. Also if we substitute PhD for learning both will be true.

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[-] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 1 year ago

The ratio is off. You learn a lot more from high school and bachelor's degree and you learn way less with your master. PhD is just expanding a little bit more on master.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The visual is more about highlighting specialization and its distance from the limit of human knowledge. You often can't represent every aspect of a complex subject at the same time on a single visual. Kinda like how you can't represent the solar system distances and planet sizes to scale on a single page, you have to pick one.

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[-] drmeanfeel@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

Frustrating to say the least. I feel my PhD accelerated learning in all directions. Not from the program content itself, but the skills involved in the ingestion of high volumes of dense information. This idea that the borders of my world don't extend past some yadda yadda about some tiny subclass of a field is some silly goosery.

Can those "skills involved" be learned elsewhere? Sure, this is just the path I took. Can phDoctors be single minded or general idiots? Sure, I'm an idiot. Do we need some single minded people? Sure, amazing things can be accomplished by singular focus.

But it isn't a mandatory condition or experience of a floppy hat assed (sword in some countries) recipient of this degree.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago

I kind of hate this image. Its like a way to discredit all the learning done in the formative elementary/high school years. If I would guess, 60-70% of everything I have learned was in high school and thats with me having several published papers.

[-] pooberbee@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago

To be fair, most of "all human knowledge" is stuff like when the last time was that each person on the planet pooped.

[-] dimeslime@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago
[-] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Go make your little bump in the circle of human knowledge then!

[-] dimeslime@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I made a little brown bump.

[-] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 8 points 1 year ago

For your paper, I'm pooping right now. You can add that to your data points

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[-] oce@jlai.lu 14 points 1 year ago

Why do you think it discredis it?

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[-] three20three@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of my professors used to refer to it as:

Bull Shit

More Shit

Piled High and Deep

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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

They are being incredibly charitable with the width of that column

[-] cvozbosher@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Knowledge is a grower and a shower

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[-] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Euler giving the circle two big balls and an erection:

O3--

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Eh. It was a stupid misadventure, but it led ultimately to me meeting my wife and making a good amount of money. I managed to eke out a win.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone knows the origin of this representation? I've seen a professor use it years ago and I thought it was his, but I guess not.

[-] MelodicMischief@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

It is from Matt Might, here.

Matt Might, a professor in Computer Science at the University of Utah, created The Illustrated Guide to a Ph.D. to explain what a Ph.D. is to new and aspiring graduate students.

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[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Last cell:

What is this, a PhD for ants?

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[-] Damaskox@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

I appreciate this picture!

[-] MudMan@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait, how bad are bachelors' degrees in the US/anglosphere? I was contirbuting to research projects and had a specialization by the time I was done with my five year bachelors' equivalent.

In fairness, I think the system has since been reformatted so that the fifth year is now a (paid for) master's, but still. That graph makes it seem like it's high school with benefits.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

College is what you put into it. A lot of people don't get into the networking side of it because it's never really introduced to them. Mostly professors look for those who are "turned on" to bring onto projects like that, that is, those that are engaged and asking questions and curious.

Youngins, lpt: talk to your professors and let them know you are interested and ask questions. It's what you are there for- access to brains.

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[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

five year bachelors’ equivalent

In Germany (and Europe, I believe, since the Bologna reforms), a bachelor’s is (usually) 3 years and a master’s is 5 years. That might be why you got to do research and I didn’t. How long are your master’s courses?

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[-] 0xebfe@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago
[-] troglodytis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

*image not to scale

[-] drctrl@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I love this

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