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[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

in the same way the guy that stabbed me brought meaningful change to my torso

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

She brought meaningful change to the mineral composition of millions of children's bones

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

The current Labour party was certainly the crowning achievement of Thatcher's legacy.

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

Thatcher walked so that Tony Blair can run

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

Literally what Thatcher said back in the day.

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

I dont pay attention to the politics of places that dont exist but isnt this the chucklehead that suspended Corbyn, or something?

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

Corbyn is such a wimp, he tried to play nice with the rightwing of Labour, even though they were doing everything to sabotage Corbyn's rule. Once Starmer got into power, they started purging the leftwing Lobourites.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

They burned Corbyn and U-turned Bernie flattened-bernie

Problem with these elder leaders is they put too much stock in the instiutions and niceties. We need more spice on the left.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

By shutting us out so completely from neolib institutions, they're basically making sure that will happen by creating generations of people that have nothing to lose politically by going hard against a party they have no ties to.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

To make it to the level that Corbyn and Bernie did in bourgeois institutions more or less necessitates a lack of spice. Entryism is always doomed to fail.

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He should have asked himself what would Vladimir Ilyich have done

kind-vladimir-ilyich

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago
[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

die die die die die die die die die

[-] shath@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

[redacted] yourself you fucking nonce

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

Really cementing his legacy bathroom

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

As an American, the UK seems like a much more shitty and horrible place to live.

It's quite shit right now but ngl I wouldn't want to live in America either. There are some things I value that we have here which is why it's ever more of a shame it's going down the shitter.

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago
[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

healthcare for one, lack of armed crazy people another

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

Just for clarification, were not arguing here, i dont think US is better. Isnt your healthcare system going to shit too?

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

oh absolutely it's going to shit but the American healthcare is already there

Our healthcare is being deliberately mismanaged so it can be sold off piecemeal and eventually turned into yours

[-] janny@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

Eh, to be honest I think part of the reason why the NHS looks better is because while american healthcare sucks and is too expensive, you brits have never experianced it in comparison to your own.

I watched philosophy tube's video about the NHS and honestly it seems like the NHS is a government agency dedicated to wasting tens of billions of dollars to maintain the appearance of healthcare so people can feel good about themselves until they actually need it. I for one prefer to know that at least while I might be financially ruined at a hospital or receiving gender affirming care, at least I can get it.

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The NHS is very good for healthcare for people with serious injuries and terminal conditions

gender affirming care is considered a quality of life treatment rightly or wrongly treated as the same category as old people getting surgeries to walk better, hearing aids, and cataract treatment and the NHS is mismanaged deliberately by people that want to destroy it especially by making it so there are very few resources to go into that kind of care

if you broke a leg they would see you that day and have it set free of charge and you wouldn't need to worry about ambulance costs or networks or anything. They are also good for serious illnesses like cancer

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There is a fairly simple comparison to make here, the UK life expectancy is 80.9 years while the US life expectancy is 77.2 years.

Healthcare in the UK is bad for anything that is a non-emergency, this is certainly true. You will be treated fast in the US system for these things. But critical care is still very very good.

Obviously other factors play into this as well, like diets, health and safety, workplace regulations, food regulations and so on. But I don't think the NHS provides poor care to those who absolutely need it. The problem is the in-betweens and things like gender care that are politicised topics.

You're also not getting lesser care if you're poor, which is a major and important factor. Nobody has "bad insurance" here.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think it depends. Our safety nets are significantly better and our homeless problem is comparatively non-existent compared to the US homeless quantity. 500k homeless vs 5k to put it in perspective (we use the term rough sleepers for the equivalent of what america uses). The 200k homeless figure we publish includes people living in any form of temporary accomodation, including staying with friends. We have the NHS too, which while strangled and coming apart at the seams is still free at point of service and doesn't ruin anyone's lives for using it. Additionally you don't have to worry about getting shot by our cops which is a slight improvement, although any protesters need to worry about them and they're definitely the biggest rape gang in the country.

With all that said however, working people have it rough. The quality of life for people in work is not nearly as good as america because cost of living is so high and wages are comparatively low.

It really depends on what you're looking at and comparing. America is more brutal to anyone that has even the slightest mishap in life whereas Britain is not. But Britain is fucking horrific to people at the low to mid income range of work. I think most people would take the security and safety of Britain over America but a lot of upper-middle to high income people would certainly prefer the latter. There's a reason so many skilled professionals leave the country, they can get better wages elsewhere.

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Makes sense thank you for sharing with me

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

that's good to know, Maybe Starmer should take some swimming lesson from the iron lady

[-] Melina@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago
[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

Very likely

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

Former Human Rights Lawyer turned CPS stooge. No specific MI5 connection I know of, he just wouldn't prosecute them for anything.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Labour radicals of the past would've beaten the shit out of him for this. No hesitation, they would have absolutely gone after him for it. And it would have been the end of labour.

[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

natural entrepreneurialism

human domestication is real

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Serious question: is there any chance at all some actual leftist party could form in the UK? I mean I’m not talking about a party that could immediately challenge power, but maybe a new party that could immediately become #4 and then maybe pass up the LibDems soon? It’s all still bourgeois democracy but still.

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