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[-] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 86 points 9 months ago

I'm really developing a violent reaction to the "video games are escapism" line.

Like, that's all the art form is to you? A means to escape your life and turn off those dumbass noises in your head for a while?

Also, knifecat escape from what, exactly? bridget-pride-stay-mad

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago

People who hide behind the word "escapism" are absolutely the sort of people who will go off on a rant about how places like China or Russia or [insert target country here] are full of unthinking drones that wouldn't dream of contradicting the status quo. :projection:

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

The main goal of the Nazi film policy was to promote escapism, which was designed to distract the population and to keep everybody in good spirits; Goebbels indeed blamed defeat in World War I on the failure to sustain the morale of the people.

Source

[-] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

Goebbels indeed blamed defeat in World War I on the failure to sustain the morale of the people.

What a dumbass. Not only did he want to reduce art to a distraction, but his analysis of the war is also completely wrong. What no material analysis does to a mf

Common Nazi L

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Goebbels indeed blamed defeat in World War I on the failure to sustain the morale of the people.

Bro thought the HOI 4 wiki was a tactical handbook

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

Don't trans people have the right to escape from transphobia also? Flip it on their heads.

[-] Orannis62@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

They would say that trans people not coming up at all would be an escape from transphobia lol

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 51 points 9 months ago

"Keep politics out of games" and the whole "escapism" line are nonsensical the more you think about it.

Video games are not an "escape from reality" into something completely new and different, they will always be reinterpretations of our current reality because that's all we know and all we can create. Reinterpretations that display how we believe the world works, how we feel about the world and what we would like it to be. Any piece of art involving any kind of society will therefore always be political, because you can't write a society without displaying how you believe societies work and/or how they should work.

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[-] teeforlove@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

damn that's crazy, anyways, any of my trans and NB comrades want to hop into tf2 and legally convert everyone into a femboy?

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago

I want to illegally convert everyone into a femboy.

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[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

I can't support trans rights because the transes killed 30 million people.

Oh wait that was the nazis.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What’s with right wingers and this constant, child-like insistence that everything they do is escapism and coping. It sounds like they want a safe space

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

gigachad: "Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from speech."

[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 47 points 9 months ago

Literally half of all players on TF2 are LGBT. I've been playing TF2 about 20 hours in the last 2 weeks and I have YET to see a non-trans medic.

They all have Mediguns labeled "Estrogen Dispenser" or other such trans references.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Hmm when I played tf2 I mained medic

I just like helping people

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[-] Azarova@hexbear.net 46 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

i know its preaching to the choir here but the trans = nazis shit is especially insane considering the institute that developed a proto-gender dysphoria diagnosis and treatment was destroyed by the fucking nazis!!! agony

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago

And after the war, unlike many other victims of the Nazis, the west German regime refused to award them compensation, effectively legalising the repression.

[-] GhostSpider@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

*keeping legalized.

It's not like the nazi regime was an illegitimate government.

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 46 points 9 months ago

freeze-gamer

All of them get the gulag.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

as always, the gulag is for those who can be saved. they'll get the pit and they'll like it

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Oh would you look at that, this gulag is actually just a pit! This is the problem with bureaucracy...

Shove AAAAAA~AAAAAYOUGUYSARETHEREALNAZIIIIIIS!!!~

You can't just not follow through on the order without a mountain of paperwork, and filling a notice that this is a pit and not a gulag will take the better part of a year to go through the correct channels!

~thud~

I hear you comrade, it feels like the gamer rehabilitation agency doesn't care sometimes.

[-] trot@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

quit job as gulag supervisor to become pit supervisor

first day on the job, go down to the pit

it's a gulag

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[-] buh@hexbear.net 43 points 9 months ago

Trans Fortress 2 critical-support

[-] Ananasova@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago
[-] stevatoo@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The same fandom that full-throatedly supported Ukraine because some dipshit made SFM meme videos and hyperlinked his fascist government's military bank account for donations.

[-] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

The whole argument that video games must be complete escapism has been twisting my brain in knots.

Like there's a lot there to be analyzed. The need for "escapism" over just playing a game because its fun is a scary turn.

These dorks are annoying, yes, but holy shit are they okay? Like there's so many threads I want to tug on but I'm afraid to. Like why do they need to escape? Why can escapism only be right wing? Where does this start, when they're kids or when they're older and disaffected? where in the video game culture is this idea presented and supported?

Even the basis that "games are escapism", means one is playing games in a way someone does drugs. A comfort, an escape, the inability to address issues in ones own life.

I'm not remotely qualified to analyze any of this but it just feels really dark and foreboding overall.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

They probably consider Call of fucking Duty to be neutral and not ideology

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

The played fallout 4 and thought liberty prime was a cool robot that made some good points.

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[-] GhostSpider@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

Well, I screamed in excitement and pride when I saw that sign. So, by the comparison, would you scream in excitement and pride if you saw a supportative neo-nazi sign, mr. Spino?

Would you, mf?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

At least the comments are all telling them to fuck off and it's been downvoted to 0.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Customer base has a lot of trans people

Developers recognize that and throw in an easter egg.

"YO WTF how can this be happening? I DEMAND THE ARTISTS PRAISE MY BELOVED HITLER!"

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[-] omenmis@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

damn theyre getting dragged in the comments too

[-] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

lol the kid who made this doesnt have a clue how many trans people play this game does he? Its also funny to age and recognize who's a kid based on the things they say and the things they post, the person who made this is very, very young, which is frankly quite sad, imagine having your brain rotted by culture wars this early...

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[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

This line of thinking is way too prevalent. Things are only good and neutral when there is no ideology, beliefs, or politics and yet at the very same time, the existence or even reference to a trans person, or a poc is politics.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Link

Edit

CW Transphobia / racism

Looks like Zesty is in refrence to freeze-gamer streamer "Zesty_Jesus" whose pfp is a catboy with masive tits. The stream was partially taken down because he "accidently doxxed" himself , conveniently removing the anti trans rant. ( and is constantly retweeting COMMISIONED art of him as a muscular woman with massive tits. )

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Zesty_Jesus

Drama with TF2 workshop creator Atom_HEV605 , https://nitter.net/Atom_HEV605/status/1733689071187218932#m

Zesty has been in trouble b4 for his racist trasphobe rants.

https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss6l2s

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[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

e s c a p i s m

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

Escapism and Historical Accuracy are the most annoying freeze-gamer dogwhistles

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[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

the trans ideology

[-] Grebgreb@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

:steamfront:

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

The two genders: trans and nazi. You have to pick one.

[-] shath@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

escaping so hard rn by blasting a australian man with a stupid hat in the face with 20,000 rounds of ammunition

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

I yearn for the days when conservatives just thought RATM were angry at taxes, this most surface level media literacy and analysis possible is honestly even more annoying than none

Soon we'll have to stop writing the subtext in crayon

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

seeing the nazis and thinking "ah yes the problem is ideas and not the fact these ideas suck"

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