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[-] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 302 points 10 months ago

That is probably a slam dunk (minor) discrimination lawsuit. Your circumstances of birth, including the date, are not something you can be judged for.

Follow up with your ID or Birth certificate and ask "Excuse me?"

[-] blaine@kbin.social 167 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

@ocassionallyaduck

@The_Picard_Maneuver

Not true in the US. They could ban anyone born in the entire month of April, or anyone who "looks like a pot smoker" if they wanted to.

Applicants, employees and former employees are ONLY protected from employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or gender identity), national origin, age (40 or older), disability and genetic information (including family medical history).

[-] flyingjake@lemmy.one 41 points 10 months ago

I wonder if an argument could be made that birthdate is a component of your genetic information including family medical history? It is also potentially age discrimination?

[-] Tbird83ii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Technically this is discrimination based on age.

They were born 4/20/(year). You could make an argument they are discriminating all people exactly (X) years, 4 months, and 2 days old.

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[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 61 points 10 months ago

It wouldn't get anywhere in the US. Age is the closest protected class, but only applies to over 40 in the US. Discrimination based on month and day of birth isn't actually illegal.

[-] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I honestly think there's a gray area here and it's worth talking to a lawyer if anything. There are certainly some protections for peoples under 40. Being denied a promotion because you're "too young" is certainly a protection. The catch is you have to prove it.

This case is easy to prove though if there are any laws over this.

Edit: but now that I think about it, this is only really a protection if you're already hired at the place. If you just slam the door on people before they can get in, discrimination seems to be legal.

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[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Whelp, time for arson then. Sorry, it's the rules.

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[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

Just set your profile to @ not US system and your birthday will be 20/4 instead!

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[-] Eximius@lemmy.world 176 points 10 months ago

They should not censor the company name.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 108 points 10 months ago

But then you might realize it's fake.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

What do you mean ‘Company Business Incorporated Pty Ltd.’ Isn’t a legitimate employer?

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 138 points 10 months ago

"Nobody was born on 4/20 except Hitler. We do not wish to hire Hitler at this time."

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

"However, the skillset has been retained in our documentation for future potential expansion into potential expansion."

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 94 points 10 months ago

What always ticks me off beyond reason in mails like these is the "we genuinely appreciate your time and effort in...."

Fuck. You. With. An. Umbrella.

You don't appreciate shit, you're full of shit, yet you're too shit to even just say what you really want to say: fuck you, we don't give a damn. Because being actually honest might also be bad and cost money.

Companies like there are the worse and should all burn in hell

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[-] Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social 88 points 10 months ago

Glad that won't happen to me. I was born on January 6th.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 57 points 10 months ago

Now I'm imagining someone legitimately putting their Jan6 involvement on a resume.

Window Structural Integrity Tester (Jan 6th, 2021): Responsibilities included - unconventional team-building activities, conditioning, navigating unfamiliar territory, and breaking down barriers.

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[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 70 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This can't be real. There are so many red flags this is fake. 1) Everything is censored. 2) GIS (Google image search) lookup only shows reddit and linkedin. The linkedin post is just as vague "learned a colleague received this!" 3) It's too good to be true. it plays on current fears. 4) It's just so dumb.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 55 points 10 months ago
  1. Of course everything is censored, there is no reason to share personal info like that.

  2. I don't know what Geographical Information Systems have to do with this post, are you referring to a reverse image search like google or tineye or something? What were you expecting to find? The original email with all of the aforementioned personal info? Are you surprised content could be posted to Reddit before anywhere else?

  3. Current fears are justified.

  4. Poe's Law tells me not to assume anything is satirical because there will always be people that stupid or greedy.

And yeah, it could be fake, 100%, but your arguments were really dumb.

[-] rallatsc@slrpnk.net 34 points 10 months ago

GIS might be Google Image Search in this case, though I haven't seen it abbreviated like that before.

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[-] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago

Is this not completely illegal? Dunno about the USA, in the UK age is a protected characteristic and you would be fucked for trying this. If it's real ofc.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago

You should have left in the company name. Shame them publicly.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 10 months ago

This is most likely fake.

If this was automated, a company automating rejection emails would never write the reason for rejection. It would be a vague excuse like "not a good fit for the role".

If this was not automated, then no recruiter would be this stupid.

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[-] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago

Wait who puts their birthday on a resume?

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[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 62 points 10 months ago

Under GDPR you have a right for your application to be reviewed by a human rather than an automated rejection. Is there something like that in the country maybe?

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[-] regdog@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago

On the one hand this is a bad that this happened to you, because the reasoning is completely idiotic.

On the other hand it can be a learning lesson that it's better to write your birthday as April 20th, and never as 4/20.

PS: Please name that company publicly. Maybe write a short mail to a website about tech news, like https://arstechnica.com or https://www.wired.com. You could also try the blog https://boingboing.net

[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 42 points 10 months ago

Seems like they should really keep using 4/20, seems like an effective pre-screening tool for places I don't even want to walk by, let alone work at.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

But that's still Hitler's birthday, which is very unprofessional.

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[-] Meta_J@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Publicity will help prevent such major oversight. This is the problem with using AI for hiring practices instead of real people. Applying to jobs in the 2020s with a college degree, experience in the field, required employment history, and certifications STILL feels like applying for credit cards online with bad credit due to AI prematurely denying many applicants on frivolous grounds before it even gets to the recruiters email/web portal. That being said I don't think this person is the person who received the email themselves they are just posting it here.

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[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 58 points 10 months ago

If you're in the US and can afford it, Talk to a lawyer.

This is blatant discrimination of a immutable attribute which is a Civil Rights violation.

This is written evidence to that fact.

[-] candle_lighter@lemmy.ml 32 points 10 months ago

I really hope OP goes through with the lawsuit because of how funny it is. I want to see it make big news

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[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago

“Nobody wants to work anymore”

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

We genuinely appreciate

🤣You obviously don't you dickheads

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

Reminds me of my sister getting in trouble for saying she had to go at 4:20. It was deemed "unprofessional". She has a appointment, lol

[-] Hotchillipotato@slrpnk.net 49 points 10 months ago

I fucking despise the fact that AI almost exclusively is responsible for throwing out 99% of all resumes before they reach a human being

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

This isn't just AI. AI doesn't care about jokes or memes or "professionalism." This was either a review by an actual human that didn't realize people are born on April 20th or an AI told to reject resumes with that date in it.

Either way, it's a really dumb person that set this rule.

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 47 points 10 months ago

Local company? Send it to the local news. They'll jump all over a reference to end of days AI.

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[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

If that's real and in the US that's age discrimination and you can sue, and easily win, even if they say it's not your age, but the date of your birthday it still would fall under discrimination based on age.

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

Well I'd certainly say they dodged a bullet

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[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 46 points 10 months ago

Well, I hope that this gets someone in shit.

[-] BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 46 points 10 months ago

My dude, that is not a company you want to be working for. On the bright side.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

That's embarrassing. Ping their recruitment team on LinkedIn.

[-] HactaiiMiju@lemmynsfw.com 78 points 10 months ago

Ping their recruitment team on LinkedIn

This is such a weird way to say "post this screencap publicly on LinkedIn and tag their entire C-level team"

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[-] kamen@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

"Choose a better date to be born on next time, okay?"

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 months ago

Historical fun fact: this is why Hitler was rejected from art school in Vienna.

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[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

That’s the great thing about AI, it’s like a human! Humans don’t need to work anymore because our computers speak like us now! It’s only ever really a problem if someone reads what AI wrote.

But if you don’t read it, wow, just look at the spacing, the typography, the paragraphs! the ~~tokens~~ words!

[-] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 33 points 10 months ago

Could this be considered discrimination? Rejecting applicant based on something they have no control over and unrelated to the position.

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[-] Tathas@programming.dev 33 points 10 months ago

My oldest child was almost born on 4/20, but he decided to cook a little longer.

My wife was so relieved, lol.

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[-] Zoidberg@lemm.ee 32 points 10 months ago

LOL! I was born on 4/20 too (and so was Hitler, btw ☹️)

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