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[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 39 points 11 months ago

an efficient way to get grenades rolled into the command tent.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

While fragging is funny and cool as hell, let's not pretend that military administrators lack methods for compelling compliance among conscripts on the battlefield. One of the primary purposes of basic training is to instill military discipline by breaking people down psychologically and building them back up as conditioned loyalists.

I would not bank on soldiers breaking ranks, particularly when they're moved up to the front lines and caught between the rock and the hard place.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

One of the primary purposes of basic training is to instill military discipline by breaking people down psychologically and building them back up as conditioned loyalists.

Yeah but these guys aren't being conditioned, they're being given guns and sent straight into the meat grinder. I'd say they're better off shooting their CO and defecting to Russia (forever) but Ukraine also has snipers for just this occurrence.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

And Russia has laid a lot of land mines, so its not a fun crossing

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

I would be looking for the first opportunity to run over to Russian lines and surrender

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

It's pretty hard to run through a kilometer of minefields and interlocked sectors of fire.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

Allegedly there is a Russian radio frequency that Ukrainians can broadcast on to receive instructions on how to cross lines and surrender. Idk if it's true or not though, plenty of lies on both sides of this war.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

It does actually exist, but it is still a massive risk to cross no man's land.

[-] edge@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago

They've been doing this from the very beginning of the war. Interesting to see NYT acknowledge it though.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

NYT has been coming clean on a lot of things related to Ukraine lately. Guess they're ready to drop Ukraine and move onto Israel ASAP

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

They got a memo from the CIA that it was time to pull the plug

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

Drafts are barbaric and should be abolished.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

Yeah, sealed is the objectively superior limited format.

I'll see myself out.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

I think functionally the problem is the cause it is employed for. There's no version of the Ukrainian military fighting for control of Donbas that isn't barbaric.

[-] wahwahwah@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

This feels like a preview of what'll happen in the US.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

same as it ever was

[British voice] You're not supposed to press gang people for the army, you're supposed to do it for the navy. Amateurs

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

[Ukrainian voice] What navy?

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

The one that blows up natural gas pipelines

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