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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 136 points 8 months ago

A bit of history. Trump's legal mentor was Roy Cohn. Cohn was Joe McCarthy's hatchet man. Cohn had a reputation as one of the most vicious pitbulls in New York legal circles. Cohn was also gay, and when he was dying of AIDS Trump dropped him like a hot potato.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 64 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Cohn was also gay, and when he was dying of AIDS Trump dropped him like a hot potato.

From your same wiki link:

and according to Seymour's notes, Trump was the last person to speak to Cohn on the phone before he died in 1986.

I haven't found anything that corroborates your statement that Trump "dropped him".

I did find this though, which reminds me of South Park; it sounds exactly like Cohn was a customer of CumHammer Brand Management:

the AIDS Memorial Quilt describes him as "Roy Cohn. Bully. Coward. Victim."


Edit: Wait, actually, looking at one of the sources from the Wiki article, there was this bit:

Bell also doubts that Cohn’s last conversation was with Trump, who, she said, abandoned his lawyer when he found out that Cohn was H.I.V.-positive. “They were so close, they talked at least several times a week,” she said. “And as soon as he found out, he took all his cases away from Roy except for one and got new lawyers. After all they’d been through together.”

Seymour is Christine Seymour, Cohn's telephone operator, who listened in on many of his conversations. Bell is Susan Bell, Cohn's secretary.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago

Just once, for contrast, I'd like someone to come up with a positive story about Trump.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

He'll die someday.

That's the best I can do.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

The outcome of this trial will be a positive story involving Trump if that helps.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Do you mean to tell me that Trump is such a homophobic bigot that he'll drop his best friend if he finds out he's gay?

Shocking.

[-] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 42 points 8 months ago

Wow, thanks for sharing that. I had no idea.

It is a prime example of right-wing hypocrisy, bullyism, and cowardice.

[-] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

on the one hand, aww.

on the other hand, fuck em.

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[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

You know if you'd said trunk learned everything he knew by watching Dan Ackroyd in the original blues Brothers movie, I would have believed that too

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

I've never seen Trump misspelled that way before, but I kind of like it.

In my opinion, he's been a busted valise.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I saw it, and then made a choice not to correct it.

Also, a broken suitcase was once useful, he's never been worth anything

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[-] DarkDecay@lemmy.world 130 points 8 months ago

Trump is one of the most embarrassing humans to have ever disgraced this earth. I often wish I lacked any self awareness so I could blindly hack my way through life. But my daddy wasn't rich so I was forced to be painfully aware of my actions to this very day

[-] Balinares@pawb.social 19 points 8 months ago

I mean, you have people in your life who actually like you. I don't know if the same can be said of Trump.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

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[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago

Plenty of people with rich daddies who are aware of their own failings and even some who care about others. You might have been a decent person even with a rich father. Trump chooses to be the sack of dysentery that he is.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Also, you’re probably not a demented narcissistic sociopath. Trump is.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 68 points 8 months ago

Two sections from the article: "“Closing arguments are for an advocate to comment on the evidence presented, on the relevant law, and on how the latter applies to the former to justify the result sought. Such arguments may not be used to testify, to introduce new evidence, to make a campaign speech, or to comment on irrelevant matters,” Engoron emailed Trump’s legal team on Tuesday afternoon." Ha ha

and

The judge’s warnings came after months of Trump’s unhinged speeches outside the courtroom and social media posts in which the billionaire labeled the judge a leftist hack, insulted the judge’s law clerk, and dismissed the entire trial as an empty political persecution." Who is "the billionaire" in this sentence? LoL

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

Who is "the billionaire" in this sentence?

"Former Billionaire"

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 30 points 8 months ago
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[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

I don't think he was even a former billionaire. That claim seemed to be based off his fraudulent property claims.

[-] silverbax@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

He has always just been a trust fund kid, pretending to be a business magnate. He had enough money via inheritance to fly around in a private jet, wear terribly fitting suits, make appearances wherever he could and claim to be wildly successful. It was all an act.

[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 months ago
[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago
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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

Remember when conservatives used to brag "there will be so much winning... you will get tired of all the winning"?

I now realize that conservatives just didn't know that whining is spelled with an H. What a bunch of whiny little bitches conservatives are.

[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

They were taught that losing is winning. Now let me show you my face to foot move.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago

"Falls apart"? Was it really ever together in the first place? You've got a person known to be a chronic liar, he's physically incapable of putting together two sentences that aren't full of lies and/or threats, and having him deliver a speech in a setting in which lying or threatening will get you punished, who the hell thought that was going to be a good idea?

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

Honestly, I think his own lawyers just didn't have the balls to tell him what you're saying, so they kicked the can down to the judge.

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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 34 points 8 months ago

This is unrelated, because nobody is surprised by this development.

I'm sure it's partly the choice of photo, but just in the last two years, Trump is really starting to look old. Like fucking hell, I don't see how Republicans can complain about Joe Biden's age when that's their guy.

I can only hope his heart is about 20 years older than he looks.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 37 points 8 months ago

People go on about Biden, but Trump is the one I expect to drop dead of a stroke in the middle of one of his crazy rants.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 months ago

From your lips to God’s ears.

[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

I noticed that his bronzer utilization has increased pretty steadily. If you ever see a shot of him wearing no makeup - sometimes they get one when he’s golfing yet again - he looks like a walking corpse.

What will never cease to amaze me is how these hyper-macho maga types have so completely dedicated their very lives to a cake-level makeup wearing NYC landlord billionaire who says that military vets are suckers for joining, that POWs should be dismissed as useless, and who eats his steaks well done with ketchup and would never touch a beer. All of that flag waving macho bullshit is really just bullshit for show. It literally doesn’t matter to them.

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[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Stress and anxiety, probably. He never felt it before, since he had daddy's money and didn't actually care about being the President before he was elected the first time, or about doing a good job after he was sworn in. But then he was charged in four separate courtrooms, and all of his legal defenses keep dropping like flies, so I would bet this is all eating away at him. He's going the way of Donovan in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, but the grail is a McDonald's cup full of indictments.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not to mention he believes that physical exercise drains your body of life and he eats like shit. The only silver lining in all of this is that even if Trump wins and creates an American dictatorship, he's not likely to live long anyways. Though I'm sure somebody else will be in line right behind him to take his place.

"After college, after Trump mostly gave up his personal athletic interests, he came to view time spent playing sports as time wasted. Trump believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted. So he didn’t work out. When he learned that John O’Donnell, one of his top casino executives, was training for an Ironman triathlon, he admonished him, “You are going to die young because of this.”

Trump Revealed, Mike Kranisch and Marc Fisher

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

That was fast. Usually he waits a couple weeks before backing out and crying oppression.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago

It was the judge who set the deadline (and extended it 3 times). Eventually he basically said "Ok, you haven't agreed to the very basic, minimal times that all closing arguments must adhere to. Tough shit."

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Has this ever happened before in the history of courts? A non-lawyer defendant with representation doing a closing argument himself?

[-] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

There are definitely crazy stupid people who choose to represent themselves in court. There are some great SovCit videos on YouTube.

It does not tend to go well for them.

[-] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 15 points 8 months ago

I think he meant people who do have representation, but still chose to do the closing argument themselves. That one should be a lot more rare, I think.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 6 points 8 months ago

Any sane lawyer would advice their client not to do that

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

It goes further than that. Court rules dictate that clients are not allowed to make closing arguments if they have an actual lawyer working the case. Trump would have to fire his lawyers and represent himself or maybe get permission from the judge.

In this case the judge said - ok you can make closing arguments but only for appropriate topics, and you can't violate the limited gag order protecting court staff. That was unacceptable to Trump.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Trump never wanted to bring a normal closing argument. All he wanted was a platform for himself and his overblown ego.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Trump is the most successful looser in history! He's so good at loosing even if he wins he loses anyways. What a marvelous specimen of the human species.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 8 months ago

I am bleeding, making me the victor!

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

But he had another piece of paper in his pocket!

[-] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

That’s the one with his Big Mac lunch order.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 8 months ago
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