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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The former president fired off a series of potentially defamatory statements as he arrived in court

As he arrived at a federal courthouse in lower Manhattan, Donald Trump’s Truth Social account released an avalanche of posts attacking E Jean Carroll, who is suing the former president for defamation.

A jury in New York City will determine what damages he owes Ms Carroll, whom Mr Trump defamed by repeatedly calling her a liar and denying that he sexually assaulted her.

It’s the second trial stemming from defamation claims brought by Ms Caroll, and a jury already found him civilly responsible for sexually abusing her in the 1990s. He continues to claim that he never met her and has repeatedly mocked and ridiculed Ms Carroll in the wake of that verdict.

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 164 points 9 months ago

And a huge chunk of the country somehow goes, "Yep, just what I'm looking for in November."

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A huge chunk of the country just down plays everything.

"OH, if it's really so bad why haven't I heard about it." I just told you mf'r.

"Trump is the victim in all this." Get fucked. In no way has that silver spoon orange cum rag ever been the victim in his life. We are talking about the person that is suppose to represent and lead umpteen million Americans and you're treating him with kid gloves.

"Innocent until proven guilty." He was proven guilty.

"It's only civil court, it's not criminal." Hold still while I shove this goalpost up your ass.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A survey done at the Iowa caucus asked "if Trump is convicted, would you still vote for him?". Only about a quarter of Republicans asked said no...

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[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 102 points 9 months ago

So during a trial to decide damage amounts for previously made defamatory statements, you launch into a bunch of new defamatory statements?

Bold move cotton, we'll see how it plays out.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

She can do this all decade long you stupid orange rapist. 5 Million. 20 Million. 100 Million. 300 Million. Keep it coming you idiot fuck.

[-] jeremyparker@programming.dev 24 points 9 months ago

If she's the one that breaks him we will finally have proof of the inmate goodness of the universe

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 months ago

"Inmate" lol

That's an amusing typo in this context.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

He is banking on the publicity that making the additional defamatory statements will give him with his voting base. He is hoping that his re-election will at the very least stall all the proceedings against him, and he may even be able to quash some of them after re-election.

The more forceful he is at his defense, the more his supporters dig in. He doesn't care about defying the court, because he hopes to make the court irrelevant.

[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago

That or he's hoping one of his supporters will assassinate out of stochasticiam

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[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

You dropped this: (again)

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 72 points 9 months ago

Imagine if some country tries to stare us down while this guy is president.

We'll be a radioactive hole.

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 91 points 9 months ago

It's way more likely that we get manipulated and taken advantage of. Other countries realize Trump is easily manipulated because he's a narcissist, and it'd be much simpler to stroke his ego while he opens our wallets .

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

If their leader is smart enough to manipulate us. I don't know that Kim is.

[-] Atom@lemmy.world 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He sure is. Remember he invited Trump across the border and told him he was the first president to come over. Trump bragged about that afterwords and talked about opening hotels on the NK waterfront.

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[-] nerdschleife@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago

He's smarter than Trump at least

[-] Aleric@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago
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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 9 months ago

Yes but Trump will absolutely excoriate them in online posts. Think of the embarrassment they would feel!

[-] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 9 months ago

He's campaigning. A large part of the country love this sort of behaviour and if it costs him a few mill well then donations will take care of that.

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[-] Art3sian@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

“You owe damages of $3M, Mr. Trump.”

“Well, she’s a nasty person.”

“You now owe $3.2M.”

“And a liar.”

“$3.5M.”

“She’s not even…”

“$4M.”

“This is horse…”

“$4.2M.”

“But I…”

“$4.8M.”

“You’re a nasty person, too.”

“$5M, Mr. Trump, plus you’re now in contempt of court. I can do this all day.”

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 months ago

And I'd readily watch that all day.

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[-] Coach@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago

He's shooting people in the middle of Fifth Avenue. Judge: What are you going to do about it?

[-] carbonprop@lemmy.ca 37 points 9 months ago

It would be amazing if the jury said jail time would be more effective than another monetary settlement. Fingers crossed.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

I don't think they have that ability.

[-] Blackout@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago

Just treat him like he was black. Charge him with contempt for anything, the way he is breathing is too loud, and set the bail for more than he can afford. $1.5 trillion?

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

They don't have that ability in a civil trial, but could they say that? Something like "Here's the incredibly large amount of compensatory and punitive damages, which we still do not believe will suffice to prevent Trump from repeating this behavior. We believe that only detention will be successful in putting an end to this continuing defamation."

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I suppose, but I doubt it would help.

[-] nulluser@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

Even then. I believe they're given a form letter and all they're allowed to do is fill in the blanks. At least that's what happened the one time I was on a jury.

[-] carbonprop@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago

I guess the only hope now is to try and bankrupt him…again

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

Well when one is a professional Loser like Trunp, another bankruptcy is no big deal. It's par for the course.

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[-] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I mean, they can say it. It would be pretty funny.

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[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

I would imagine it would have been much harder for his Loser routine if there was still a debtor's prison. It wouldn't be a standard way for him to do business.

With how many things he's failed at and in a big way involving investors, customers, regulators, and the courts, it's been amazing how he's been able to get his hooks into the country. Celebrity truly is king in America.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

All it took was repeating bald faced lies about his business acumen on TV for a handful of years. Before apprentice, he was universally seen as the piece of shit that he is. So much so that he's basically the archetype of almost every movie villain from the 80s and 90s.

[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Just start calling in the new jury on the campaign finance violations he's about to commit the second he has to pay the settlement. Those carry actual jail time.

[-] jeremyparker@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

Money is the only thing he cares about. Keep the fines going up. We can call it the Trumping Point: the amount of money required to make a billionaire understand consequences. Then future fines to other billionaires can just start there.

For real though, imagine the orange apoplexy if he lost all his wealth.

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

Thank you, Iowa voters!

/s

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Just another reminder that Iowa voters are generally morons who back a loser more often than they pick a winner.

[-] jeremyparker@programming.dev 20 points 9 months ago

Counterpoint: losers of presidential elections have been president as often as not in the past 20 years

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

Defaming someone just as you're arriving at a trial to determine how much extra you're going to owe for defaming them again after already being fined for defaming them would be SUCH a badass move if it wasn't so stupid and coming from someone so vile..

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

This should surprise nobody.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

When I read these things I am tempted to believe more and more that all hope in humanity is lost. I can't believe that our so-called allies in America are not able to recognize injustice and treat it the same way. Your society is finished - there is no other way to put it.

[-] Stanwich@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I honestly don't think it's possible for them to change. Their democracy is done. They are now a warning symbol to the world. I know I'll start looking into my own countries politics . I've been addicted to the shit show coming from the states. I do always wonder how more extreme it is in the news then what the average American sees.

[-] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

If he wins, we're done. No doubt about it. However, if we hold back the fascists this election (this includes the House and Senate,) there is a real chance at landing a huge defeat to maga extremism in '26 and '28.

Yes, you should be paying attention to your local politics: right wing extremism is on the rise everywhere.

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago

He really doesn't know when to shut up, hopefully that will be his undoing.

[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately that doesn’t seem to have been the case his entire life so far.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

In large part - perhaps exclusively - because corporate news is utterly incapable of saying the basic truth. He's a demented rapist fraud who can not stop lying.

They can't say that! They can't get close to saying that! And that is what gives him his rabid base.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

They can, but they just refuse to because they're all afraid of losing access.

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

The more he opens his mouth, the more his rabid fans adore him.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

Hahaha boy I love this. On the hook for 10, who knows where it ends.

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