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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by blakeus12@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

saying something this edgy does not absolve you of bigotry

edit: for anyone stumbling into the drama, i probably should have elaborated on this post. I am not saying you can't make fun of white people not being able to eat spicy food or anything, but at some point it becomes self-flagellating. to quote comrade RedQuestionAsker:

It's good to challenge white supremacy in all of its incarnations at all time. It's certainly good to refuse to be proud to be white considering what the concept of whiteness is.

It's another thing to performatively hate yourself in a cocktail of millennial self-deprecation and liberal white guilt. It's not revolutionary, and it's probably not good for you.

that is all. comrades just know i dont hate any of you. i'm not trying to start a slapfight. i just saw this as weird performative behavior and wanted to call it out.

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[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

It's funny, there's more activity of posts about self-flagellating kkkrakkkas or whites than about POC themselves

Like wtf, man, I know you hate yourself, but don't make it your entire joke's existence agony

And destroy the empire itself, numbnuts!

[-] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

When I see it on hexbear or like friends (I have a white friend dw; ok had and that's cuz I moved) I does not bother me, sometimes it comes out of the blue I think, but maybe that's me not paying attention.

I'm at an institution which is quite progressive (groups speak out against Isr--l killing Gazans (and uh, other people from Isr--l) and whenever profs or some upper year well-known students, academics or scholars do it, even the ones that are kinda based, I cringe hard and it's difficult to believe it's genuine and not finding another way to put the spotlight on themselves...

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[-] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Self flagellation emoji when?

[-] PapaEmeritusIII@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago
[-] Gay_Wrath@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I guess i don't see it much differently than calling for the genocide of colonizers or xi-plz . Like it's not that deep. It's fun to dunk on people who take anti-whiteness seriously. But i'm sorry it makes you feel uncomfortable and like mayos are trying to absolve themselves of their mayoness. I guess i just see it as white people rejecting white supremacy and punching up at white people who believe in white supremacy or race """science""", which seems harmless to me. But thanks for sharing your point of view.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

kill the cracker inside yourself

[-] Ideology@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Okay, but hear me out: what if I'm not one of the good ones?

[-] Tommasi@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

It makes me cringe really hard but if people think it's funny or whatever it doesn't really hurt anyone.

[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

As a white man,

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

comm request c/salty_crackers

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I feel like I was just talking about smth adjacent to this in c/em_poc the other day.

There’s a formulating barb in my head about how these crackers might be just as bad as 4channers in some ways about expropriating Black rage but I don’t have the words measured, hammered out, and concrete for it yet.

Y'all are super-duper loud about crackers; (In this community discussion sense, cracker == settler; as opposed to the whole of caucasity) to a point that genuinely does start feeling performative. Like yeah, I'm finna laugh when a well timed "unlimited death" jumps out there, weaponizing fear of the "gReAt RePlAcEmEnT" against crackers will always be great fun-- but some days looking at the hexbear feed, it feels like I'm watching reverse-Mantan. Like, if anti-minstrel shows were a thing, if white minstrelry based itself in performative contrition and public self-flagellation, that's what some of the bits start feeling like after a while-- ESPECIALLY when a dozen of those type posts drop in a three day span.

Kind of a goofy bit to constantly return to, and vaguely discomforting to watch continue. Like... If you're really 'one of the good ones' like you claim to be (collective, not singular; don't wear the shoe if it don't fit), then it doesn't need to be that loud all the time, feel me?

[-] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

idk, where else can we say that? Like if we say that anywhere else we're just gonna be shouted at by a bunch of liberals and accused of reverse racism. The charge that it's trying to absolve oneself of their own complicity in the racial hierarchy is a valid one, but it also is a genuine sentiment among white people especially on the left, and even among those apolitical people who have yet to realize that what they mean when they complain about "the man" or "society" is white bourgeois society and values. It's a wholly emotional statement, and obviously "fuck white people" isn't a basis for organizing or political action, but this is a shitposting site at heart and I think it's fine if white people want to vent about their fellow hwhytes every now and again.

(I say this as a white person)

[-] PapaEmeritusIII@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

Maybe white people don’t need to say everything that’s on our minds

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[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

I took a bias test one time

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