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[-] burgers@toast.ooo 61 points 2 years ago

i dunno, the premise of this question seems to me like homelessness is a riddle that homeless people just have not figured out. im pretty sure that if the answer could be crowdsourced in eight hours from eighty sysadmins on the toilet, it wouldn't be such an intractable problem

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 years ago

eighty sysadmins on the toilet

I'll be damned if that isn't the most succinct and accurate description of Lemmy that I've ever seen.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago

... so that's why shitposting is such a huge deal on lemmy.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Homelessness is never a choice. It is always circumstantial (i.e. very very bad luck and nobody to turn to for help) or based on something like a mental health or substance abuse disorder.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

For me, my homelessness was caused by being abused and then abandoned by my family members and the resultant depression.

I am incredibly lucky that I have had people come through and support me and give me a place to crash and distractions from my misery long enough for me to process it until I could get back to a decent working mental order.

On a purely financial basis I'm doing really fucking good. I made a little over $150,000 last year, I live in a three-story home, I drive a relatively new car and things are generally pretty good for me in that aspect, but I also have practically no friends and very few people that I can rely on that live anywhere near me and there are unseen costs attached with reaching those levels of depression and misery that I don't have the ability to express in text format.

But yeah if it had just been on me none of that shit would have ever happened in the first place. It wasn't that I was lazy. It wasn't that I was miserable. It wasn't that I was useless. I didn't have issues with drugs.

I was my high School valedictorian.

I did everything that I was supposed to do the way I was supposed to do it.

I still got to experience several years of homelessness because the people who chose to bring me into this world also chose to use me as a punching bag and then throw me away when I got old enough that if they continued to beat me mercilessly they would go to jail for it.

It took me a total of 12 years to pull myself up out of that funk and get back on solid ground again.

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[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

It seems like 100% the problem is a lack of support. Substance abuse is tied quite a bit to having a lack of support and connections to healthy people. It's why things like AA help people, they have access to a real person who cares about their recovery. Bad home life, being abused, mental health leading to homelessness, it all sounds like ways of saying "unsupported and left to the elements."

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[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Hey! I'm not on the toilet.

right now...

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

If you live in a blue state, then you get in touch with the housing first types who will get you into a small home and off the street. Then you rebuild your life.

If you live in a red state, you hitchhike to a blue state and do the first step.

[-] hanekam@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

I would go the Social Services office and explain my situation. Provided I could prove my identity I would walk out with a couple hundred dollars cash, an address for decent temporary accommodations, and an appointment with a case worker to find a more permanent solution for me.

That's the security of the Nordic welfare state.

[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So many plots for series only make sense in the US. Your answer in comparison to many others here show why.

It's mostly just sad. I don't mean it in a condescending way. Reading that people would likely just kill themselves, turn to prostitution, do crime, etc.

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

"That's communism!"

  • The USA, probably
[-] Fawxhox@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

I did this pretty much, except I did have a car and family, but I was stubborn and refused help from my family, so really just the car.

Get to a bigger midwest/ rust belt city (Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, St Louis, Cleveland) cost of living is low which is good for you, and in my experience not many people are moving there so tons of people are hiring at jobs with no requirements (I got a job in like 2 days). Try and get two jobs close to each other, probably downtown. You'll save up money way quicker and have less time to deal with living on the streets.

Find a public park, preferably one with those grills and a water fountain. You can cook food over a fire on thee grill, simple things like oatmeal or ramen. The one I stayed in had bathrooms that were open during the day (at night I just did my business in the woods, used a bag for number 2). It also had an old public building that was closed down but I could climb on top and sleep under the eaves out of sight and the weather. I kept my stuff in my car but I could have kept it there.

For electricity charge you're stuff at work, and get a backup battery, they're only like 30 bucks and it's super important. Libraries are a godsend for a million things, electricity and bathrooms chief among them. After 3 months you should be able to save enough for a shitty apartment and have the job history. Lie if you need to, they won't check more than your current job 9/10 times.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Go to the library and look up government assistance programs. There are usually some programs to help you, even if you have to jump through miles of hoops.

[-] Blahnominous@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 2 years ago

In the U.S. I would also advise calling 211. It's a hotline that connects you directly to qualifying government resources.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

I was there last year. I sat in the men's shelter and job hunted. Then I ran my money out at hotels before moving in with a friend from the men's shelter.

A lot of those other dudes at the men's shelter who literally couldn't do a job were basically fucked though. It's depressing that I can't do anything for them and they're all on timers before they gotta face the weather and evil police.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago

It's sad how easy it is to tell who's from the US and EU here.

Basically "you're fucked, be a criminal or die" versus, "go to the Social Services and tell them you're homeless"

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Very important post. We need solutions, not judgements or moralistic catchphrases that are impossible (bootstraps)

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

If you're in the US, you're screwed. If you're in Europe, you can go to the social services office and they'll set you up in an apartment and get you on a path to a job or education.

[-] Threadsdeadbaby@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I'm a woman so I would become a temp prostitute. I would avoid hard drugs. Bank roll and buy a van. Live in van. Great success.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

did I forget my current skills or they are just not in demand anymore? have govenment programs improved? hows my health?

[-] psychobilly@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The point of stating "no in demand job skills" was that I did not want someone who has been a web developer for 20 years write something like:

"Easy! I'd just go to the library and get on Upwork.com and start doing freelance gigs". <- just an example

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[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago

I am barely holding it together in my nice, comfy life. In that scenario the first thing I would do is look for a nice, high building with roof access.

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[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

I'd start by checking into a homeless shelter. Then I'd get a job within walking distance. That's the hard part, the walking distance part.

I was in ALMOST this situation in summer of 2022. I was homeless, and stayed in a shelter, and got myself a job. But I wasn't penniless. I had maybe a hundred bucks when I started, meaning I could ride the bus to work.

The lower you go, the harder it gets. So my solution would have been impossible without the bus fare.

The shelter had a very early curfew. 6:30 pm or something like that. It would have been impossible to walk to the job simply based on time -- about two hours' walk to and from which wouldn't leave enough time between wakeup and curfew to get to work, work, and get back.

The lower you go, the harder it gets. That's one of the most useful things to know about life. If you take a break and you slide back, that break just made your life harder. Below a certain threshold, you can't climb back up again.

I got out of homelessness, but I had the benefit of mental health, and of being pretty tough already when I became homeless. I guess toughness is an aspect of mental health, so suffice to say I had the key ingredient to get out of that which was mental health. Well, and a functioning philosophy of life.

[-] xhieron@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Crime. I'd do crime. I'm too old to join the Navy, too poor to get some debt. So I'd do the same thing the overwhelming majority of Americans who find themselves in the situation do: Crime.

Which crime? Well, the likelihood of this actually happening to many people who are currently gainfully employed and financially stable is uncomfortably high, so some cards I just have to keep close, and you should too.

No war but the class war.

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[-] amio@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

Bluntly, I find my current life more than difficult enough with 4/5 of that (I discount the CC and car as not strictly necessary), so I'd start planning my suicide. That's obviously not meant as advice, it's what I would do.

[-] smallaubergine@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Try to find a job. Like any job. I'll clean or do manual labor, no shame in that. I'd also try and look for government programs for re-education so I can learn whatever skills are in demand and the moment.

[-] TheLastOfHisName@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

I'm 57 years old with bad knees. I won't make it. First thing I do is go somewhere quiet and kill myself.

[-] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

First up, go to one of the available help centers and register for welfare. This will give me a monthly income that's enough to cover most of my daily needs. Housing will be more complicated. The state would cover my rent but I'd first need to find a suitable flat in the first place. If I'm lucky, there is social housing available. If not, I'd have to sleep on the street or in shelters for a while. No idea how I'd handle that. Once I have a roof over my head, I can start looking for a job.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Military.

It sucks, but lots of people join because it's literally their last option available.

If you're over 35 you're out of luck tho.

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[-] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

Learn to pick locks. Steal food from dumpsters. Get a job with a locksmith. Aquire shelter. Make friends.

[-] Woht24@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Probably join the military, get a degree for 4 years of my life and start fresh. Hope there's not a new war in the mean time and if there is, still probably beats being homeless.

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[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Sell some plasma, spend the money on Fent and kill myself.

[-] peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago

Americorps, baby! Get those positions with applied housing. I guess I'd make use of shelters and the local library first.

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