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I love how Elder Scrolls treats the fantasy races. Real grim danky and full of racism and dark shit all over.

I love being in Morrowind and being called names because I'm a giant walking lizard where cat folk and lizard folks used to be slaves. Lean into that shit Bethesda. Gimme dat race war.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 96 points 1 year ago

Except the problem is that Bethesda writes really flat, unconvincing racists. In fact, I'd go as far as to argue weakly portrayed racists in media like Bethesda's are part of why racists are always like "I'm not racist!" because they're comparing themselves to absurdly over the top tropes of badly written racism.

[-] Thassodar@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago

You want Disco Elysium level racists in all your games? Because they got that right.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 19 points 1 year ago

Yes. The Disco Elysium devs deserve to write all games.

[-] camr_on@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Maybe not all games, but a 3d open-world RPG written by the Disco writers would be utterly amazing

[-] midget247@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Have you tried New Vegas?

Oh what am I saying, of course you have

[-] camr_on@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Hahaha only a few thousand hours. You just reminded me that it's been too long since I've done a playthrough so thank you, I'm off to add a few more

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

If it's been more than a few years, you'll be blown away by recent mods. There's been a bit of a modding Renaissance.

[-] camr_on@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Music to my ears. I'm hoping to get a modded playthrough working on the steam deck. I did a TTW playthrough a couple years ago and it was great

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Steam Deck definitely has a learning curve to mod with, but I've done it. You can either go the Wabajack route and transfer the list from a Windows PC, or manually mod it using Linux natively on the deck. Viva New Vegas is fantastic, if you want a TTW list the Wasteland Survival Guide is fantastic too. You can add the Mojave Express Guide on tip of VNV if you want more content.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I need a Khajiit Measurehead

KHAJIIT HAS CRANIOMETRIC PERFECTION AND ADVICE ON RACIAL THEORIES IF YOU HAVE COIN.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago

They do now for sure. Morrowind at least was a lot harsher. It wasn't just racists. There were groups who still practiced race-based chattel slavery. Now they are mostly too scared to even mention it as a possibility.

(Although I would argue Starfield is pretty racist in it's creation. A large portion of black characters have African accents. This is long after colonization, and theoretically there would have been lots of race/nationality mixing after leaving earth. Sure, some places may retain or even strengthen their accents, but it probably wouldn't be race based anymore, or at least not the same as in modern day earth. It's so uncreative and uninteresting, and seemingly racist in its portrayal. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who noticed this, but it aggravated me.)

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

Oh great, they stopped the fun kind of racism and gave us actual racism.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It's not just Africans. It doesn't make sense that Indian/Hispanic/Russian/American accents exist either. Earth ceased to exist hundreds of years ago, and there are no homogenous cultures anymore (except the va'ruun, their accent makes sense). In Bethesdas effort to be inclusive they treated accents like they're a racial attribute rather than cultural. In reality there would be a UC accent, a freestar accent, etc but the accents depicted in game would be long extinct.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

I disagree on the accents not existing at all. For example, The Expanse does it well. The belters have a distinct working class Irish accent, but there's nothing there to do with race really. Accents can be used to show where groups come from, but for scifi to work things need to actually be thought about.

[-] wolfshadowheart@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I had no issues with the accents so much as who had which. Except for the Engineer Pilot NPCs who always had illfitting voice lines to their NPC look

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

One of my favourite examples of a "weak" racist is Ulfric Stormcloak in skyrim. You telling me the Jarl of Windhelm and the leader of the pro nord movement continues to tolerate the grey quarter within his walls? Especially given it is implied most nords are racist, and especially the windhelm ones, it seems it would be an obvious political move to evict/raze/kill off the grey quarter.

Of course this could be seen as a bit extreme but it seems weird to me that the city hosting the leadership of the nord rebellion is more racially diverse than some of the other nordic settlements.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Used to be?

Looks like some n'wah forgot to lock his shed and now all the farm tools have run off.

[-] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 37 points 1 year ago
[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago
[-] Toribor@corndog.social 24 points 1 year ago

I sell Dwemer oil and Dwemer oil accessories.

[-] 50MYT@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago

How do we get to subscribe to this show

Hank definitely sneaks into Luanne’s room at night to get some of her clean burning propussy.

[-] wolfshadowheart@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

He would never, he can't even look at her in a towel

[-] Jknaraa@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

Night Elves in Warcraft 3: Murderous xenophobic amazons.

Night Elves in World of Warcraft: Bubbly hippie chicks.

[-] Eagle0600@yiffit.net 28 points 1 year ago

Dwarf Fortress elves are basically Bosmer from the Elder Scrolls, basically anti-vegans. They will eat the bodies of their fallen enemies, but won't bear any harm coming to a plant.

[-] Rootiest@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I hate them. Let me chop the trees down in peace you worthless elves!

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Else their wooden weapons will slowly bruise us all to death!

[-] Rognaut@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure that's bobby and Luann.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

That better be a propane grill I tell ya hwat

[-] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It looks more like Cotton to me.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Elves in Divinity Original Sin 2: nomnomnomnomnomnomnom...

[-] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Mmmmmm adrenaline rush

[-] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Meanwhile, wood elves in Dragonlance:

1000003639

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I see the lance, where dragon?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 16 points 1 year ago
[-] odium@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You should update your username to DragonTypeUndeadWyvern after that lancing

[-] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There dragon.

There castle.

[-] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

Meanwile Forest Knife-Ears in Warhammer:

Setting foot in our forest? Bad move!

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That feel when you gaslight the Fantasy French into worshipping your God Queen and then kill them for trying to see her.

[-] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but that's a fun recreational time!

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Also that feel when you save the Fantasy Holy Roman Empires future Emperor because reasons.

Seriously the biggest flex Karl Franz ever did was encounter the wood elves as a child and not get fed to the trees. Add on the fact that they showed him respect as a child and the elector counts shouldve put him on the throne instantly.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And don't even tell them about the Deldar

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[-] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

i sell fire salts and fire salt accessories

taste the meat, not the heat

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Will you grill me on this grill?

[-] Fox@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago

YOU BETTER EMPTY THE GREASE TRAY

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[-] milliams@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder. Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels. Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies. Elves are glamorous. They project glamour. Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment. Elves are terrific. They beget terror. The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning. No one ever said elves are nice. Elves are bad.

Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies

[-] Steinsprut@szmer.info 8 points 1 year ago

Based rotmeth enjoyers

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

In comics:

"I've never been to a wood-elf moot. What should I wear?"

"... wear?"

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