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[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 58 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"Has this game ever been a member of the Chinese Communist Party?"

"No sir it is Singaporean."

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago

Skull and Bones could have been great, but it's unfortunately a dud. I'm sure no one working on this title wanted to create a bad game, but the final product has all the hints of homework that was submitted for the sake of meeting a grading requirement.

There’s the problem. They saw how much people liked the pirate stuff in Assassin’s Creed 4 and they thought they could just throw a bunch of money ar making another one. I’m guessing no one really had a creative vision for the project beyond “make big pirate game.” It looks like Ubisoft got exactly what they paid for.

I look forward to this sort of thing playing out a lot as generative AI becomes more common. “I don’t get it, we fed all the right data points into the computer, but no one likes the result! Why aren’t people enjoying the things that our models show are statistically identical to the other things they like?”

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

I’m guessing no one really had a creative vision for the project beyond “make big pirate game.” It looks like Ubisoft got exactly what they paid for.

They basically changed the core concept at least twice during development, first rejecting every prototype for two years straight then telling the studio to make "Siege, with boats" and then going soypoint-1 "Sea of Thieves!" soypoint-2 when that came out.

And the whole time they were shitting on the local devs, rotating out the management, and basically just using the ongoing project as a way to grift subsidies from the Singapore government and have some place for their execs to vacation while pretending to work.

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Goddamn, I looked into it more and you weren't exaggerating. What a clown show.

[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

On the flip side of that, I could easily see indie creators feeding a mishmash of ideas into chat-gpt and stable diffusion and coming out with a weird-ass, wonderful game like Kenshi. It's the corporate "polish" that smooths off all the weird edges that will make these insufferable.

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Just give me a pirate game where like 30 dudes try to load, aim, and fire 20 guns while trying to repel borders, heal/replace the injured, adjust sails, etc while cannon balls smashing though the ship.

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately your best option is pretty much a dead game.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Like FTL with a ton of crew?

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Exactly, multiplayer, 3d FTL.

[-] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

If you want to sail around by yourself, navigating, adjusting sails, managing cargo, food, drink, and sleep, Sailwind is a cool indie game where you do that. There's basically no NPC's and absolutely no combat, but it's got the golden age of sail mechanics stuff down.

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

Exactly. Nothing is going to change about the system. Indie developers will do all the innovation while big studios continue to let endless market research and monetization drive all of their decisionmaking.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They saw how much people liked the pirate stuff in Assassin’s Creed 4 and they thought they could just throw a bunch of money ar making another one.

'Okay, mes amis... now let's rip out the ship boarding, the melee combat, fleet management, island traversal, towns, most of the resource stuff and economy, and the single-player aspect! C'est magnifique!'

So far away from what anyone wanted or expected.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

Years ago there was a big budget pirate themed porn movie. I worked with a person who rented the "rated" version with all the XXX content cut because they had no idea what it was. They were like "yeah the acting wasn't great and there were a lot of sex scenes in the plot." Ma'am that's because you rented a porno from Blockbuster.

I still think about that when I see pirate themed stuff.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

TIL Pirates is a porn movie

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

Skull and Bones is huge, so expect to spend a lot of time travelling. I managed to locate Singapore in the East Indies and travel there, where it's known as a pirate den called Telok Penjarah, but getting there took me almost 15 to 20 minutes of listening to shanties

I really don't want to defend an 80 dollar game in any capacity, but this is exactly what I wanted from it. Sailing around listening to sea shanties (and occasionally attacking British ships and outposts) was the good part of ACIV.

[-] Evilbunbun@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

Yeah but theres no ship boarding or melee combat…

[-] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

What? That's how basically every naval battle ended before the modern (Dreadnought and later) naval era. Ridiculous.

[-] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

yeah but that's a separate complaint from "the map is really big and you have to sail too much in this sailing game"

improve the combat and he would still complain about it taking 20 minutes to get to the east indies

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Okay that sounds really bad then

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

That stuff's gonna be introduced in a 30 dollar DLC. Just watch.

[-] Evilbunbun@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Knowing ubisoft, probably

[-] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

I came here to post like what a moronic fucking complaint, like, it's like buying a farming game and complaining about all the fucking farming you have to do

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

I would assume that for the full experience, you might need to manage crew members, or assign tasks. If all you gotta do is move the stick left and right, to get from point a to b. I'd be bored out of my mind.

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Ngl I mostly enjoyed using the car in FFXV. Just spending a couple of minutes being driven around looking at the beautiful vistas between missions was really relaxing. Spent a lot of time in AC Odyssey just sailing the boat around looking at islands too.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

80 bucks? I thought "big" releases were 70 now, 80?

I already decided I'll never pay 70 bucks for a TRIPPPLE A GAME so 80 is extremely out of the question. Why would I spend so much on such garbage when better games are still coming out at the 20-40 price range

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

Triple-A games sell for $70, which is around $23 per A. Ubisoft has stated that this is a quadruple-A game. At $80, you’re only paying $20 per A. Say what you will, but that’s not a bad deal.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Well damn when you say it that way it's a bargain!

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

It's an Ubisoft game (and reviewed negatively), so it'll be $15 during frequent sales within a year.

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

I paid 70 euros for Tekken 8 because I can't pirate it and I'll put in the hours, but it felt like shit anyway

[-] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

i paid for fucking diablo IV and basically haven't played it in months because I hate how everything fucking scales to you

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago
[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

The author is Singaporean, so presumably that's the price in Singapore dollars.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

Say, is this the thread where they sell AAAA batteries as well?

agony-soviet

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

Hold on, the most expensive games right now are around $70? Far be it from me defend game studios, but I distinctly remember spending like $50-$60 on N64 carts like Goldeneye and Ocarina of Time back in the late 90s. That’s almost like, price deflation since then.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

Gaming used to be much more of a niche product than it is now. Bigger market means more potential sales and economies of scale. Also products based on new tech tend to get cheaper over time - compare the price of the first cell phone to a top of the line flagship phone today, etc.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

Game development technology has also come a long way since then. 3D modeling and animation and game design and stuff are all probably a lot easier to do with all the fancy desktop software now available (and super fast computers).

Also it's entertainment and there's an incredible amount of competition for entertainment stuff. Games aren't food or housing.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

They're easier, but the standards are a lot higher, and the number of people working on modern AAA games is staggering. All the roles in a very high-production game from the 2000s (the kind that would split modeling, texturing, animating, or gameplay programming, graphics programming, menu programming) are now whole large teams.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

The market grew and people aren't willing to spend more.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Well they can't simply raise prices by the inflation since people wouldn't buy games if they were too expensive. Also most big budget games make a lot of money from other sources besides the box price.

[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

screm-a AA game

Seriously, though, you could tell this one would suck just from the overproduced sea shanty in the commercial.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

I pine for a really good Boat Game and really wish Tears of the Kingdom had a giant ass wind water style ocean with islands and stuff where you'd build your own boats to get from place to place.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Nothing has ever managed to scratch the it h that Sid Meiet's Pirates! gave me

[-] FanonFan@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Honestly I'd love another remake. The 2004 version was my jam, still revisit it every few years.

[-] SkibidiToiletFanAcct@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

people keep talking about this game's price, but it's $60 on epic.

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

I know how you can get it for free...

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