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[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 98 points 9 months ago

What I never understand about these people is that… don’t they understand that the only thing that makes states powerful is that they use violence? You can have all the powerful incantations you have, but they have cops, armies, judges, and jails. That is what makes them sovereign.

Just ask Native Americans how much real actual treaties are worth to the US government.

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[-] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 78 points 9 months ago

Never apologize for posting SovCit stuff, this stuff is gold, and makes me feel so much better about my state of mind...

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

I just don't want to spam the shit out of.Lemmy but this one is too good to not sharr immediately.

[-] m_f@midwest.social 15 points 9 months ago

This is a great place to post it IMO. Helps keep the community active

[-] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Have you considered starting a dedicated community for it? It seems like you have enough material to get it going.

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 23 points 9 months ago

But then this one would be dead

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Yes I have. I'd like it to be c/AmIBeingDetained?

[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 22 points 9 months ago

Please continue posting in this community. Lemmy is not big enough for niche communities yet.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago
[-] Mkengine@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago

I can only agree, post everything you find, there are already so many tech topics on Lemmy, your posts are pretty much the most entertaining thing I can look at on Lemmy.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

There is one called sovcit I think

[-] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

I would be so there for that.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

What this isn't a sovcit ridicule sub? It's literally the only posts I see

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

We have like 1 person posting sovcit content because they think its lulz and nobody else posting.

Be the change you want to see in the world or some shit.

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 60 points 9 months ago

I love how these people can never seem to spell things correctly even while using a computer or phone that definitely has an auto correct and likely a grammar checker as well.

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 9 months ago

Of course, just like how they know the law better than cops and judges and whomever else, they also know better than spell check/autocorrect.

They are, in fact, never wrong for any reason.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

"Am I so out of touch? No, it's the basic rules of grammar and society who are wrong."

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Correction: they know the super secret law! Not even the judges or legal scholars know it, but they do! And they learned it from Facebook linking them to a web1 geocities page!

[-] Bunnylux@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago

The way they use legal words in made up ways is kind of reminiscent of how the book of Mormon tries to sound like the king James Bible but it was 300 years too late

[-] Chuymatt@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

Omg. That is it!!

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Nailed. It.

[-] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 45 points 9 months ago

These are the same people who say they didn't sign a contract so laws don't apply. Why would their fee schedule apply then?

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Doesn't their logic boggle the mind?

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 9 months ago

It's always child support. Fuckin trash.

You make the baby, you pay the price. Pay your fuckin child support and support your child emotional by paying it on time.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Always always. And they are usually the father and the biggest piece of trash ever.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Man. I know that having actual conversations instead of saying something everyone agrees with and patting ourselves on the back is dangerous territory on social media…

That said, I’ve seen right wingers make this same argument about women and abortion and folks go insane.

I have happily raised and supported my children, and I can’t personally relate to anyone who doesn’t want to, but still.

My father abandoned me. I feel like he had the right. My mother admitted to me that she pretended to take her birth control because she really wanted a baby and my father wanted to wait. He wanted to be successful first. He’s helped me out a few times when he’s heard I’m dealing with something huge, but he didn’t have to. It was my mother’s choice to have and to keep me. She left him out of that and then demanded he pay for it.

Now, if a man and a woman are building a life together and happen to have a child, I believe he should be legally required to take care of that child.

In the case of a one night stand or something like that though, I believe “my life, my choice” is as important as “my body, my choice”. It’s practically the same damn thing. Being saddled with debt because a woman wanted to have a child just doesn’t seem right.

I have adopted and raised two children. I have adult children that I’ve raised and supported. I’m raising kids right now and I made that decision. If I decide to roll out at this point, I believe my ass should go to jail if I reject my responsibilities.

I think there are conversations worth having around that though. I know women have got the short end of the stick for a long time, and in a world where no one can make a choice, it isn’t fair to make one party carry the burden alone. In a world where a choice can be made, I feel different about it.

Edit: So, no conversation then? Just downvote and go?

I’m at 3 upvotes and 4 downvotes right now. I’m honestly interested in knowing why anyone would disagree. Like, a seriously thought out argument on why I’m wrong here.

[-] Thehalfjew@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I used to feel the same as you. But the short answer here is because the law chooses to focus on the welfare of the child over either of the parents. It isn't about being fair to the mother or the father. The mother and the father made the child. The child needs care. The mother and the father are the most reasonably responsible for its care.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago
[-] salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 9 months ago

Love the commenter on the bottom arguing with the rest of them for not pronouncing the magic spells correctly

[-] TastehWaffleZ@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

All for the low price of $997

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Down from…nine nine seven!

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Holy christ.

[-] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Sounds like the judge declined to enjoinder a treaty with him

[-] gloss@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 9 months ago

Well, my fee is $18,000 for reading your facebook nonsense. A like will set you back $20,000, and I'm about to like all your posts. Hey, we all get to make our own rules, right?

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Obviously it's because he didnt include a booger in the note underlined in RED marker TWICE on the bottom right corner, one inch border.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago
[-] Steve@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago

Keepin in real

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

I think I'm finally getting the mindset of these people. This is a person with a martyr complex who wants to go to jail so they can claim to be "oppressed"

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Hmm…

They’re mostly high-school educated, and many are mentally ill, FWIW.

Evaluations of Urban Sovereign Citizens' Competency to Stand Trial (2018)

[-] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh shit you got paid $250,000 each night in jail Sign me up for a week.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Somehow the judge doesn't see it that way though.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Because she’s a NATURAL WOMAN but under the robes she’s a ROBOT WOMAN

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago

Fine. Send him a check for $500,000 but garnish 100% of it, and use it to pay this asshole’s child support. Then say that the check was a mistake, and bill him.

[-] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

This has got to be like 10% trolling the 90% into prison. Then it kind of makes sense.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Don't apologize for posting something good just because some people can't help but project their ADHD.

[-] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

ADHD is a diagnoseable condition that has nothing to do with what you are trying to say. Break the stigma. I have loved ones with ADHD. It's not the butt of a joke or something to call someone. People don't make fun of people with anemia. This is no different. It's a medical thing that the individual isn't at fault for or has a choice in. If anything, a person with ADHD deserves understanding and patience.

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks. I'm pretty open about my crippling ADHD and I never sent a judge a "fee schedule."

...and I can't even force myself to watch those funny videos of sovereign citizens getting pulled over because they're usually too long!

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Some people just like to complain

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It is true. Some people also think that their opinions matter haha.

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