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[-] yukichigai@kbin.social 90 points 1 year ago

Beehaw: You should join our instance.

Also Beehaw: We're defederating from two of the largest instances.

[-] gullible@kbin.social 75 points 1 year ago

It’s a safe space and the fediverse rapidly expanded tenfold. Beehaw has stated outright that they want to refederate with the big instances, but are delaying until mod tools improve enough to allow them to maintain their safe space for their gaggle of vulnerable folks in the wake of the severely increased workload.

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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Holy shit guys. If they wanted to have that requirement let them have it, if people wanted to fulfill it and join its good for them. If they wanted to defederate, thats ok too.

Not everyone needs to do what you do.

[-] lwuy9v5@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

I'm still a little sad that both solarpunk and beehaw just straight up didn't respond to my essays back when there weren't that many lemmy instances yet.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 30 points 1 year ago

I don't remember if I ever got an email either. I just figured out I was approved once I was able to log on.

I also must say I never wrote an essay lol. Just a few words.

[-] theatomictruth@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Same, and I literally just wrote “I think Beehaw would be a good fit for me”

[-] MarvinKMooney@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

They denied me when I wrote basically that, and apparently when you are denied that username is then banned.

[-] krellor@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

They had a bug where if you were denied it was supposed to send a notification with a link allowing you to elaborate, but those notices didn't go out. Then, when you've applied but gotten stuck in the unapproved state, your user account exists but is disabled, this you can't make a new account with that same name. Sort of a sucky situation all around.

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[-] aeki@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago

I'm on both of those and never got an email, I just tried logging in after a while and it worked.

I wrote 3 - 4 sentences and got in.

They want people to join who will make an effort to contribute to their community.

So their """essay""" requirement is working if it keeps out people who think that writing a couple lines is "mental".

[-] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I earnestly wrote a couple of lines, and then a week later they replied that they don't have enough information to decide, at which point I just threw my hands up and decided for them. I don't need that kind of pedantic hoop jumping in my private life.

They want to know if your views will mesh well with the community they are trying to curate before they let you in.

I browsed Beehaw for a bit before deciding that it did, and mentioned it in my application.

I think they're a bit more choosy now, as I used to see folks spouting things like "can you not use the word 'minorities'? It shows a bias. You need to address everyone, not give preferential treatment," or some other dumb horseshit.

Honestly, I think they just don't want to have to deal with people saying stupid shit and they're tired of trying to argue with people who A). genuinely hold stupid, shitty beliefs, or B). are trolling/pretending to be stupid in order to get a reaction.

More power to them, if that's the case.

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago
[-] atocci@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's nice here, but we aren't totally safe from drama either. In the Kbin Codeberg for example, issue #196 attracted the ire of another developer

[-] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Care to elaborate what was said?

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It's not overly long or complicated but here's a summary:

Original: Codeberg Kbin/kbin-core, Issue #196

OP: Hey Kbin dev, you're using my code without attribution.

[Comments from other users]

Kbin dev: Oops, my bad. Here are a couple ways I can fix it. What would you prefer?

OP: Attribution.

[Additional comments about license stuff and the nature of open source software]

Kbin dev: Working on it.

OP: [Details of suggested fix].

Fix

Issue closed.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I need to take my blood pressure medication now. Thanks a lot.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

I saw the post they're referencing, and it was a lot more heated than they're making it out to be. It was ultimately resolved, but it would definitely qualify as drama imo

[-] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I was part of that discussion. There was an ongoing attribution issue where a person claimed their open source project wasn't being attributed correctly (where it looks like kbin is forked from another older project)

With the Reddit migration and a range of other issues, old mate who manages kbin didn't get around to fixing the attribution (choosing to focus on getting the server stable and fixing actual issues)

It got brough up again last week in a not so flattering post and within a day or two it was resolved (putting to bed the idea that old mate is actually out to steal people's code)

Not a great situation overall but it's great it's been resolved 🦙🦙🦙

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[-] TwinTusks@outpost.zeuslink.net 5 points 1 year ago

Theres drama?

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[-] r00ty@kbin.life 20 points 1 year ago

The beauty of the fediverse. You have the choice of multiple projects and for each project many instances covering political, technical and other points of view. Each of those able to curate and moderate the experience to fit in with expectations.

If none of those suit you, you can make your own.

I totally understand what beehaw are trying to do. If there was no choice there might be a problem but, there is plenty of choice.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Why DO you wanna join? Is it to make sure everybody is nice to you?

[-] seathru@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago

Uh, Yeah. If you're going to give me the choice. My free time is limited, why share it with assholes?

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Just don't ban me for an arbitrary reason you'll never explain and you're worlds better than Reddit

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[-] 3TH4Li4@feddit.ch 14 points 1 year ago

If there is anything new for Lemmy as far as I have joined, it's always the heckin' instance wars, just pick one and be happy with it Also, there are a lot of instances that require written stuff for joining as an extra filter to avoid bots and trolls ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I literally told them I like their animal community and want to look at animals and mentioned how I feel about bunnies and that was that, I'm an official beehaw member who can look at animals whilst signed on to beehaw lol they're not for everyone and that's fine because they're not trying to be for everyone. If it does seem like a place you want to join they're not insane about sign up, just give them a good reason you want to be there besides like "trolling lolz".

[-] Graphine@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Honestly I'm considering leaving even .world. Mods have just been feeling too Reddit-like recently.

I guess that's the nice thing about the fediverse though.

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[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

usually all you need is just need 1 sentence.

[-] MJKee9@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My response was "because I'd like to be a member of a second instance.". They rejected my application.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just browse their communities from another instance. It's not like you have to be a member to engage with a particular instance. It might harder to find an instance's community on your instance because nobody on your instance has subscribed to the community, kick-starting the feed to start populating with its content, but using the outside/3rd party instance/community search tools, I've subscribed to several communities across several instances, all from my preferred instance account.

The only benefit I could see to being specifically on Beehaw is that you would be somewhat shielded from content coming from instances they defederated with; and it's a big blanket ban. Maybe some of the communities on a blocked instance aren't piles of shit. I, personally, would rather start with an entirely open instance and block what I don't want to see myself, over letting someone else make that choice for me. There are very few instances I would block in their entirety so far that I've seen.

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[-] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Why would I want to join “Beehaw”? Is it any better than Lemmyworld?

[-] Limit@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Don't know about beehaw but lemmy.world was really getting on my nerves with how slow it was and how often it was down. Lemm.ee has been a much better experience for me.

[-] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There had been some downtimes, apparently due to DDoS attacks, but since then everything is fine. Actually I am not a fan of such elitarian approaches, with a hand-picked user base and too strict moderation. I am actually quite happy on Lemmyworld and was curious what would make Beehaw so special. But I’ll keep Lemm.ee in my mind as a possible alternative.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Beehaw is just defedrated from most instances and heavily moderated. So it's a lot of LGBT+ and people who were on other instances and got fed up with tankies.

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