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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A Maryland high school student was arrested and charged with threat of mass violence after police say they discovered evidence revealing the teen had plans to commit a school shooting, authorities said Thursday.

The arrest on Wednesday came after authorities discovered a 129-page document they say was written by 18-year-old Alex Ye, the Montgomery County Department of Police said in a news release Thursday.

Authorities learned of the writings following an exchange Ye had via Instagram messaging with an unidentified person who felt a school shooting was “imminent,” according to the teenager’s arrest warrant. The unidentified person knew Ye from an inpatient treatment at a local psychiatric facility, the warrant says.

Ye referred to the writings as “his memoir,” which begins with a disclaimer that it is a work of fiction, the arrest warrant says.

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[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 6 months ago

How the fuck do you write 129 pages' worth of this?!

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Probably by descending into psychotic, self-aggrandising gibberish.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Yes, this person has lost touch with reality. They need serious help, not incarceration. This will potentially end up with them being held incompetent to stand trial.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Wait just had this argument with my boss. He said that conference were in Vegas those assclowns got together to plan on how to seize voting machines etc wasn't illegal. He says you can't be charged for planning an attack. I gave a scenario of me planning a bank robbery. He said not a crime to plan it.

Yet here we are they arrested this kid. If says a work of fiction can he really be charged? Not saying he wasn't nuts what not just what to know how you charge them?

Because lots of people write fiction scenario I am sure of shit wish they could do but would never do so.

[-] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Your boss is a moron. Conspiracy is a crime. If you and I plan to rob a bank, and you ask me to go get masks to further the crime, and I do, we have all committed conspiracy to rob a bank.

In this case, the kid's lawyer may be able to make a persuasive case it was just a dark fiction, but if there is evidence he was doing more than just writing? Idk. I'm not a lawyer.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 15 points 6 months ago

He says you can’t be charged for planning an attack.

Your boss is a fucking moron.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

And possibly OP for working with them.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Technically a conspiracy requires an overt act, after which all the planning then becomes evidence of said conspiracy.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

People are often blown up by the US government for planning an attack. So that's an, em... interesting philosophy your boss has.

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

So much comes with the intentions.

It's not illegal to create a plan to rob a bank on its own. It becomes a crime when it gets specific, like dates and locations. If they can show intention to commit the act, it becomes a crime.

But that doesn't mean they won't necessarily arrest you anyway. Going through an arrest, jail, and court proceedings just to be acquitted still sucks.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 points 6 months ago

How the fuck do you write 129 pages’ worth of this?!

Simple, he enjoys the idea of it.

" Ye was hospitalized in December 2022 for “threatening to ‘shoot up a school,’ homicidal, and suicidal ideations,” according to the arrest warrant. The student was then hospitalized for five months in 2023 at Johns Hopkins Pediatric Unit for “homicidal ideations.”

More recently, on March 15, FBI agents interviewed a school counselor who worked with the student from late 2022 to early 2023 and said Ye would “express violent thoughts such as shooting up the school, wanting to hurt other people, and would smile while saying it,” according to the arrest warrant. "

[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

Very large print. Maybe 80pt size.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Large margins. Double spaced.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago
[-] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's probably 129 pages of printout ChatGPT dialog.

Guy: Hey ChatGPT! We are gonna role play a school shooting scenario. Totally fictional stuff.

ChatGPT: Ok, bla-bla-bla.

Guy: Change x.

ChatGPT: Ok, bla-bla-bla.

Guy: Change y.

ChatGPT: Ok, bla-bla-bla.

Guy: Change z.

And on it goes.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

These days some people's names are really long. That's my guess, I don't know.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

The article put these two lines out of order. Let me fix that for them:

“In the document, Ye writes about committing a school shooting, and strategizes how to carry out the act. Ye also contemplates targeting an elementary school and says that he wants to be famous,” police said in the news release. A search warrant obtained by investigators “led to internet searches, drawings and documents related to threats of mass violence.”

Ye referred to the writings as “his memoir,” which begins with a disclaimer that it is a work of fiction, the arrest warrant says.

That's a 'work of fiction' along with OJ's book about how he would have killed his ex-wife and her boyfriend.

[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 13 points 6 months ago

Wow. Just imagine believing that the tenuous negative press coverage is worth the lives of dozens of children and your own life / incarceration.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Whooo boy, this one is probably going to turn into a media circus. The accused is F2M trans.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Whooo boy, this one is probably going to turn into a ~~media~~ Faux News circus. The accused is F2M trans.

The conservatives are going churn that for all it's worth.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Welp, guess the "in Minecraft" defense doesn't work.

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

He hasn't been convicted yet.

Slam dunk case for his defense, it is clearly a work of fiction, as indicated, and merely an intellectual exercise and a valuable study of the vulnerabilities of the hypothetical target that law enforcement should learn from and compensate the young man for.

Glad that little shit was stopped. He should have planned to film himself playing with sparklers after a petrol bath if he wanted to get famous.

[-] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 months ago

Being labeled a work of fiction probably carries less weight when this person has been treated for homicidal ideations at an inpatient facility twice. Unless there’s a link where this document is really a physician-ordered tool to address inner demons or something, it’s probably not going to aid in defense.

[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

129 pages!?! Wtf...

I just wrote training documentation on an IT technology and it wasn't even that long.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago

What really gets me is the waste of labor here.

This kid was halfway to a first novel. Almost zero writers can say they completed their first legitimate work before 18.

Like... What a fucking shame.

[-] Landslide7648@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 6 months ago

Glad to see procrastination got the better of him

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