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Anon has a power fantasy (sh.itjust.works)

No.250341473
>fantasy setting has magic and flying creatures
>still using horses as main transportation

No.250341651
>>250341473 (OP) #
>setting has nuclear energy
>still using coal as main energy source

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[-] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

There's a lot of hidden costs and infrastructure needed for magical flying beasts. Not to mention limited capacity. Little can compete with the horse drawn cart when it comes to capacity for price though.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Boats beat out horse drawn carts by an insane amount.

It’s why trade hubs and major cities were practically always on a major river and/or in a favourable location for a port.

[-] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Yep, not having a bunch of your trade going to feeding and caring for your horses makes a huge difference.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Someone's never owned a boat.

There are 3 idioms that come to mind.

A boat is a hole in the water you pour money into.

A boat owner is only happy twice. When they buy a boat, and when they sell it.

"You don't want to buy a boat. What you want is a friend with a boat!"

[-] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago

A boat for personal use and a boat for trade use are two very different things.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

But what if cart drawn by flying pony?

[-] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

I could never ask Fluttershy to haul things for me. At that point, I would start carrying things for her

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

YEAH!

But also Equestria is r63-land.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

setting has lemmy

still using 4chan

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There are positives and negatives to both platforms. Lemmy has an abundance of information about Linux and memes about Star Trek but misses out on literature discussion and completely lacks the ability to recognize sarcasm. 4chan is a concentrated discussion hub where every interaction is seen and evaluated, but occasionally it hosts a slight hint of bigotry.

[-] thechadwick@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

You would just not believe the regulatory burden of maintaining magical creature flying safety regime too.

You drop a simple glove off directing and 30min later, boom. You've got a gnome commission setting up barriers around it and paperwork for weeks to come..

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Setting has electric cars

Car enthusiasts of the setting are fanatical about petrol cars instead

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

They are now because you can still get petrol reasonably cheaply. When the price rises because everyone else has gone over to electric I think they'll be less interested. Part of the problem is that there's a whole generation of people who've grown up with loud noise equals cool car.

Pretty soon though there'll be a whole generation for whom the vast majority of cars were electric their whole lives and I suspect they'll be less interested in petrol cars. It'll become a much more niche hobby.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 0 points 9 months ago

I bought my 30 year old car 15 years ago for $2000 and it still runs well and hasn't needed too much in the way of repair. Find me an electric that can do the same and I'll make the jump in a second.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 0 points 9 months ago

Find a 1994 EV in good nick? I can find you 2024 internal combustion cars that won't last 15 years; I can find you a 2024 EV whose manufacturer says will last a million miles (or maybe that's the 2025 version), that's 33.3 thousand miles a year for 30 years. But that manufacturer lies.

Did your car claim a greater than 30 year low maintenance life when new? Is its lifespan typical of the model?

Can we take your position as "has an outlier lifespan car, doesn't want to replace it"? My last car I sold was 20 years old and had seats with worn out cloth (and exposed padding) and broken plastic trim around its adjustment controls

Nissan leaf battery replacements were a minor repair when the first of those needed them. They got much better than new batteries for pretty cheap

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 0 points 9 months ago

A quick look at the used market shows me a shit ton of nissan leafs going for $1500 to $3000. I wouldn't be able to go to the next town over with one, because it would die on my return trip. 10s of miles of range on a full charge according to the listings.

Granted, ANY half-decent car in the used market goes for a lot more than what I could get when I bought mine, but the bashing over the head that some people do about "go electric, or you're the problem" isn't feasible for most people.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

I mean you are part of the problem. Objectively. It's not entirely your fault as your country should have better public transport so you don't need a car for everyday use. The prices of EVs are possibly too high as well. Don't pretend though that driving an old car isn't harming the planet. If you really want something old get a diesel car and run it from bio diesel or vegetable oil. Might even save you money that way if you are lucky.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

I doubt my old car rotting in a junk yard is much better than the little bit of driving I do, never mind the bullshit of pinning the death of the planet on me when private jet owners create vastly more emissions that I do. I can save a lot more money NOT replacing my perfect functional car with a gamble on the shit heaps in my local area. I may be "part of the problem," but I'm a very small droplet in the ocean.

[-] uis@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

> Setting has public transport

> Setting is still full of carbrained petrolheads

[-] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

A more accurate analogy would be along the lines of having jets and helicopters in the world but still using cars or trains as the main form of transportation.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Fall off a horse -> dust yourself off and get back on. There's a whole idiom about how falling off horses is a frustrating but ultimately minor inconvenience.

Fall off a gryphon -> you are dead.

[-] multifariace@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Superman was paralyzed from falling off a horse. It can be way more than an inconvenience.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Both of these can be explained with the same reasoning.

[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago
[-] spookex@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Didn't know that capitalism made people blow the miniscule dangers of nuclear power out of proportion and create irrational fear

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

The by now miniscule risk of meltdown is not the only downside to nuclear power compared to renewables.

There's the fact that a nuclear power plant takes a decade or more to build and make operational and we need to replace fossil fuel energy production NOW. In comparison, gigantic solar arrays and wind turbine parks can be ready in a matter of months.

Then there's the nuclear waste. There's been discovered one truly forever safeplace to store it in the world, deep down into a mountain in Finland (afair, could be Norway). Even if we (unreasonably) assume that it can all fit there, transporting all the radioactive waste of a world reliant on nuclear energy to Finland would be an environmentally ruinous nightmare.

Lastly, nuclear reactors need cool water to function efficiently and safely. Global warming, the very thing proponents say they're the best solution for, is making nuclear plants less effective and less safe.

In conclusion, renewables are by far the best solution, not nuclear energy.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Dystopian Fantasy; only the rich and powerful have access to magic.

Edit: Bright would actually be that, now that I think about it. 🤔

[-] daemoz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Sounds like mistborn nobles

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago

Makes me wanna link the thread where people were making the argument that wheelchair users and deaf people wouldn't exist in fantasy settings.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 0 points 9 months ago

Just because there is magic doesn’t mean everyone can afford it.

Also interesting to think about, if a deaf person has a magic amulet that grants different hearing, are they no longer a deaf person or are they a deaf person with a magical aid?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

are they a deaf person with a magical aid?

I think they'd still identify as deaf for community purposes.

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

I think they would do the exact opposite for community purposes. In a medieval fantasy world they might be the only deaf person in their small town, so they don't wanna be ostrasized for being different and weird.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Coal 675 billion kwh

Nuclear 775 billion kwh

Renewables 894 billion kwh

Natural Gas 1802 billion kwh

This meme is dumb and wrong. Funny tho.

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Natural gas is not really an improvement 😭

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