Crisis pregnancy center councilors are literally the scum of the fucking earth.
Luckily some states/cities are putting laws in place to force these assholes to admit they aren't actually medical facilities with signs on the front door.
And other states give them public money 🫠
That's so disappointing and infuriating.
When I did some digging on those places I found they frequently work with private, Christian adoption agencies....who then legally can refuse to adopt babies out to non-Christian families, even refusing to adopt out to catholic and Jewish families, and obviously LGBTQ families and atheists. I can't provide any links cuz I'm at work, but a quick search will pull up adoption discrimination and the link to crisis pregnancy centers. Shit pisses me off. Manipulate scared, often young women into giving birth then using them to fill up their churches. Disgusting.
Yes, it all fills me with rage as well.
The one here (Indiana, of course) has a huge office in a new building downtown and a giant custom converted RV (I have no idea what that's for). They also worm their way into local schools.
Meanwhile, the Planned Parenthood closed down.
Also Indiana. We have a similar RV that frequently sets up in my town; it's a mobile abortion-reversal clinic. They also do pregnancy/STD tests and ultrasounds.
Maybe the RV is for a place to put pictures of fetuses.
n....necromancy?
They only works if it was alive to begin with.
Well it's definitely alive, that's not a terribly high bar (plants and sponges qualify, after all).
The ethics question is whether it's a person yet (or should be treated like one)
Though even if it's considered to be a full person one person cannot be compelled to give use of organs to another without their consent, even after death. Can't even be compelled to do something with basically no risk to yourself like donating blood even if you're a perfect match and objectively the reason another person requires a transfusion or whatever.
You actually think that a fetus isn't alive?
On a cellular level, sure.
Take it out of the mother? Not so much, at least not for a while,
botchling
The first randomized, controlled clinical study to attempt to study this “reversal” protocol’s effectiveness came to an abrupt stop in 2019, after three participants landed in the hospital hemorrhaging blood.
The general horrificness of this aside. How do you recruit participants for a study like this? "Do you want to be pregnant but don't mind having an abortion? Would you like an abortion but don't mind if you actually get it reversed?"
I can't find the original study, but according to this NPR article they were all scheduled for surgical abortions.
The abortion pill is a two pill process - the study was to find out if progesterone injections could reverse the effects of taking the first pill only.
I found the study if you're curious on more details. It was basically done because there was a series of relatively poor evidence case series articles pushing the idea of mifepristone antagonization (the first pill in the two step process) with high dose progesterone to try and stop a medical abortion after the first pill but before the second pill. But case series are just basically cherry picked cases and very limited in what they can show. This practice was becoming more common though because of these, and so researchers wanted to learn more about what risks it would pose to women who did this, and if it was even effective in the first place (though this situation is very rare, less than 0.005% of women who take the first pill choose to try and continue their pregnancies).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31809439/
This is how participants were recruited:
We conducted this randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial at the University of California, Davis Medical Center. We approached patients who had completed counseling and consent for a surgical abortion and were 63 days of gestation or less about study participation. Inclusion criteria were 18 years or older, English-speaking, singleton pregnancy, and willingness to delay the abortion by approximately 2 weeks. Exclusion criteria were medical contraindications to medical abortion per the mifepristone U.S. Food and Drug Administration label, an allergy to mifepristone or progesterone, or a peanut allergy (on-label contraindication to oral progesterone). The University of California, Davis, Institutional Review Board approved this study and all participants gave written study consent before beginning any study procedures.
Twelve people were enrolled, though two chose to stop the study early and were given surgical abortions before the planned two weeks. Three had to be transported by ambulance for bleeding, and further enrollment was halted.
What they found was:
Although the study sample size was powered to demonstrate a difference in continuing pregnancy rates between progesterone and placebo treatment after mifepristone ingestion, we could not evaluate this outcome owing to stopping enrollment for safety reasons.
Patients who use mifepristone for a medical abortion should be advised that not using misoprostol could result in severe hemorrhage, even with progesterone treatment. We stopped the study because of these complications and, thus, could not quantify the full extent of this risk. Because of the potential dangers for patients who opt not to use misoprostol after mifepristone ingestion, any mifepristone antagonization treatment must be considered experimental.
So basically, don't do this, and any "crisis pregnancy center" that advises this is putting pregnant individuals in clear danger. The American college of obstetricians and gynecologists knows what they're talking about when they say this should not be done.
So then abortion isn't murder?
Can you reverse a murder?
Jesus Christ.
well, yes, I guess the reversal worked for him
"Put that thing back where it came from or so help me"
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