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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 80 points 1 year ago

What do you call indescrimate shooting at civilians in the hope to kill terrorists, the systematic displacement of civilians, the cutting off of crucial infrastructure and aid?

I really would love to ask Biden that.

[-] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

You're nice saying they hope to shoot terrorist in the process...

[-] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Many different u.s. interventions over the years.

[-] coolusername@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

What terrorists? Israel legally speaking Israel does not have the right to defend itself. Oct 7 was a success MILITARY operation and no, mass rape and the other atrocity propaganda did not happen.

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

They may not have done the biggest atrocities that were rumored, but they still purposefully kidnapped civilians, which I'm pretty sure is a war crime.

[-] Sidyctism@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

A MILITARY operation on a fucking festival and a kibbutz?

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[-] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 77 points 1 year ago

What is Biden's definition of a genocide then? I am seriously curious.

Because many people that are leaving his cabinet, they seem to think it is a genocide.

Students seem to think it's a genocide.

The public thinks it's a genocide.

The Jewish and Israeli population think it is a genocide.

So... everyone else is wrong then?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

In the end, it doesn't matter how he defines it. We are signatories to the UN and the UN definition in Article II of the "Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide" is:

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

a) Killing members of the group;

b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

Note the language: "ANY of the following acts".

Israel is now 5/5 with the relocation of children from Gaza to the West Bank.

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/13/1238227682/orphans-gaza-rafah-israel-west-bank-sos-childrens-village-international

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I've heard the argument that it isn't genocide because Isreal doesn't intend to destroy Palestinians. I guess their defense is that Isreal is just incredibly inept at fighting a war? I don't buy it. How anyone can deny the genocide after the World Central Kitchen incident is beyond me.

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[-] Johandea@feddit.nu 18 points 1 year ago

In order to be classified as a genocide, it has to fulfill these two criteria:

  1. Be a genocide
  2. Not be committed by me or my allies

It's that simple!

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[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I got you Joe, right here:

"It also said no aid trucks have entered the territory in the past two days via a floating pier set up by the US for sea deliveries, and warned that the $320m (£250m) project may fail unless Israel starts providing the conditions humanitarian groups need to operate safely."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/21/un-suspends-food-aid-in-rafah-over-lack-of-supplies-and-insecurity

"The UN Genocide Convention lists five acts that fall under its definition. ... Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.”

https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

[-] Nom@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago
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[-] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago

His point just isn't convincing.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago
[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"It's not what it looks like" I say after being stopped in the Red Lobster parking lot with my JNCO pants overflowing with shrimp

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

Feeding anyone shrimp you have kept in you pants. Def needs adding to the genocide definition.

Under imposing measures intended to prevent birth. As you and anyone accepting them I Will def be single.

[-] applepie@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

But please still vote for me in the elections, I totally got thoughts and prayers for the victims of Israeli degeneracy but hands are tied! AIPAC is a good guy, dindu nuffin!

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[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago

But the thing that's happening in Xinjiang that there's no evidence for, that's totally a genocide. Trust me bro.

[-] Hegar@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

I generally recoil from comparing biden to putin but this really requires russian levels of post-truth politics.

Israel is committing war crimes like trump commits all his crimes - openly, in public and shielded by US elites.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

It's a regional dialect, that's what he calls genocide.

[-] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure thing "not genocide" Joe.

US investigated themselves and found themselves innocent of all blame in the murder of thousands of people. Israel was innocent too, funny that. No need to check.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The human brain has two halves, one left and one right. The problem with US presidents is that in the left one remains nothing right and in the right one are nothing left.

[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Here's an alternative source being that OPs isn't working for me https://www.axios.com/2024/05/20/biden-reaction-netanyahu-arrest-warrants-gaza

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