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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 49 points 10 months ago

Capitalism is fundamentally, ideologically opposed to a good quality of life for virtually all human beings.

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 10 months ago

Except for the handful of sociopaths that get to live like kings while you struggle to stay alive.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That’s just the thing. It’s bad for the sociopaths also because we’re feeding into their delusions. Their hoarding is also an illness.

Even if we argue that the sociopaths benefit, billionaires are a vanishingly small slice of humanity.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Yeah. They’re not genuinely happy. They don’t really have friends, and are also isolated from their communities.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

They also go to great lengths to further separate themselves from the masses geographically, such as Zuckerberg building a massive compound/bunker on Kauai and Peter Thiel's Libertarian man-made islands project in International Waters

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[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

I'm fine with billionaires going to space. I just have a problem with them coming back to Earth.

[-] dentoid@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 months ago

I know the punchline is good as it is but i like to point out that it is actually easier to launch billionaries out of the solar system than into the sun

[-] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

And leave that trash in space? Litterbug!

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

What about deep down in the ocean? I heard of some recent tests...

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

But then they might come back?

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Not if we superglue and then tie them to the seat. And give them no controls on the inside. And just play a loop of “nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Hey, hey, hey. Goodbye.” Not even the whole song. Just that part, on infinite loop.

[-] PrimeErective@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago

And so was born the unfortunately named Epstein drive

[-] young_broccoli@fedia.io 1 points 10 months ago

Just blow up the ship ffs

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

What's wrong with an orbit that'll decay into the sun? That'll take even less energy.

Lemmy is as bad as Reddit for these stupid pop-sci talking points.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

I think you are greatly overestimating the easiness of send cargo to the sun

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

With the trillions they steal from the rest of us we should be able to fund the project fairly easily.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

When your ship is going to the Sun, it has to cancel out nearly all of the orbital motion it inherited from Earth. In order to have the ship drop straight down towards the Sun on a one-way collision course, the ship would have to leave Earth’s sphere of influence at a relative velocity of 30 km/s.

But remember, Earth’s gravity will try to pull the ship along with it, so in reality you’d have to depart from Earth at a relative velocity of about 31.6 km/s (70,700 mph). That’s nearly twice as fast as the ship would have to go in order to escape from the Sun.

The parker solar probe cost was about 1.5 billions. A fully manned one way Mars mission would cost about 20 billions going by the cheaper estimate.

The same one way mission going to the sun would be 10k times more expensive.

About 2 hundred trillions USD

By 2022, total earth GDP was about 100 trillions.

Yeah it's not happening anytime soon

[-] voldage@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ok, listen tough guy, you make that a two or even three way trip or whatever you need, do the math while the rest of us catch the rich and plunder their physical vaults full of gold coins which we will use to buy the rocket, and then we meet up again to discuss how to shove 'em up there kay

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

You are greatly overestimating the amount of actual wealth rich people have.

[-] voldage@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I've read Donald Duck comics back when I was a kid so I would say that my understanding of how the rich operate is pretty much perfect representation of reality, thank you.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The billionaires don't have to be intact on their flight.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Couldn't you just go for a slow, spiralling course instead of the direct route? Much less correction needed from Earth's course, just a constant deceleration relative to the orbit path.

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[-] gens@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago

You can use earths, moons, or any others gravity to aim the rocket.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Out of the solar system yes

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Stupid question: do asteroids hit the sun, or do they get pushed away by the sun and melt?

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

If you have pretty much any lateral velocity, you'll end up in a highly elliptical orbit and miss the sun

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHvR1fRTW8g&pp=ygUYaG93IHRvIGZhbGwgaW50byB0aGUgc3Vu

[-] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 13 points 10 months ago

Missing the artist! First Dog On The Moon! https://firstdogonthemoon.com.au/

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I think people should reevaluate doing that to billionaires. I just learned that it would take more energy to fire something into the Sun than it would to shoot it out of the Solar System. We could get more done aiming in the other direction.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

You don't need to hit the sun dead center to incinerate something in the sun, just get it within the orbit of mercury and it'll take care of itself.

Also what's wrong with firing it into an orbit that'll decay into the sun? You don't need to 1 shot these things.

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Technically we’re all on a slowly decaying orbit into the sun 🌞

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 2 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure that is not true

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Well it’s either that or we’re slowly falling out of orbit, no? The Sun will die and consume us before we spiral into it though, I think?

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 2 points 10 months ago

Orbits are stable until affected by some force. Earth orbit is table as long as we can forecast it but in the long run other planets might change them one way or another

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 5 points 10 months ago

I bet good ol' guillotines are much cheaper

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago

Err, no wrong, bad physics.

Also, the guillotine requires no such bullshit.

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I say fire pit roasted, like a pig bbq.

Sounds impractical the system always ends up with a 1% that had most of the wealth

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s difficult, but I try to remember this and enjoy the absurdity of it all. So, thanks for the reminder.

[-] starman@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

frightened that you will [...] die old

What's the problem?

[-] thefrankring@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

You can't be entirely capitalist but you can't be entirely socialist as well.

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