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It's really not a big deal.
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Pretty sure Loki was the mother of Odin's horse.
And you are correct!
He also got Thor to dress as Freya to pretend to marry a giant king
I personally don't see that is one of those trans Loki moments, because I'm cis, love joking, and identify with Loki in the tale.
If I were in that situation, I would 1000% find it hilarious to convince my best bro the only way to get their most prized possession back is to crossdress and trick a King.
Classic Loki.
I'd avoid mentioning it unless you want the ire of the Trickster God.
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They’d kidnap and enslave them just like everyone else; true egalitarians!
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Close to 100% viking here, you're welcome! I might enslave you though, but without prejudice.
Nice try viking. By viking law you can only keep what you kill and a dead slave is worthless, therefore taking a corpse as a slave has no standing. You will just have to settle for the plunder and be on your way.
I, for one, welcome our new, tolerant, Viking overlords.
I'm 90% sure vikings would have been more than a little excited by the idea.
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I'm sure a whole lot of people where fine with it until the christofasciast colonisers and occupiers had their way
Loki turned into a mare to get properly fucked by a stallion, get pregnant and deliver an 8 legged super horse (Sleipnir) that Odin proudly rode around... yeah, they are very fine with gender fluidity
I mean, Loki was ultimately a villain, so it's more like they perfected the queer-coded villain archetype, but there's also evidence both that Shieldmaidens were a thing and some Shieldbrethen were assigned-as-Shieldmaidens-at-birth. How accepted that would have really been we simply do not know, or how much norms changed by region and time. Or even whether they would have thought you were stupid for asking if ladies could fight in "men's clothing," aka, armor.
There is also quite a lot of difference between a Dane, a Kievan Rus, and a citizen of what was basically a republic in Iceland in 930 AD.
Pretending the Vikings/Norse/Whatever were some pinnacle of ancient tolerance is just as wrong as pretending they followed practices that map 1-to-1 on modern bigotry. They were an immensely patriarchal culture, whose economy was quite literally based on chattel slavery on a scale that would only be matched by American plantatioms, with a whole slew of what can only be called toxic masculinity, who only could ever look good in comparison to Roman and Abrahamic norms, but that's the comparison Westerners will inevitably make in their favor because that is the standard they know.
Doesn't Loki being a villain vary from myth to myth? In some he's just mischievous, in others outright malicious. The Ragnarok myth has him leading the armies of the dead, but I've always wondered how modified the story is due to the influence of Christian monks...
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Read more norse mythology for smart people at
https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/the-aesir-gods-and-goddesses/odin/
He’s a war-god, but also a poetry-god, and he has prominent “effeminate” qualities that would have brought unspeakable shame to any historical Viking warrior.
cal tradition known as seidr, of which Odin and Freya are the foremost divine practitioners. In traditional Germanic society, for a man to engage in seidr was effectively to forsake the male gender role, which brought considerable scorn upon any male who chose to take up this path. As the sagas show, this didn’t stop some men from practicing seidr anyway. However, even Odin wasn’t exempt from such charges of “unmanliness,” and was taunted for adopting the feminine traits and tasks that form part of the backbone of seidr. Saxo, in the passage on Odin’s exile alluded to above, relates that “by his stage-tricks and his assumption of a woman’s work he had brought the foulest scandal on the name of the gods.”[16] Note also the reference to being “fertilized” in the verse quoted above – while this is certainly a metaphor, it’s a metaphor loaded with sexual implications that would have been immediately recognizable to any Viking Age or medieval reader or hearer of the poem. A fuller discussion of the relationship between Germanic shamanism and gender roles can be found here: https://norse-mythology.org/concepts/shamanism/
Viking: Can you fight?
Trans Viking: yeah!
Viking: cool, let's go fuck some shit up!
Canonically accurate.
Edit: Huh, you're going to have to open the image in a new tab to actually read the comic.
who said they wouldn’t
A lot of alt right dickheads use viking insignia and culture to their advantage in dogwistling and such, which sucks and I'm assuming what is being referenced.
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I'm pretty sure modern day viking descendants are ok with them.
Vikings also fucked their friend's wife when he died. Also were supporters of slavery and have abused their slaves. Am failing to see the point?
She's probably taking on those hyper masculine white nationalists obsessed with their viking ancestors, not on vikings to be cool again.
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Are there any supporters of slavery that haven't abused their slaves? It seems to be part of the whole deal.
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