Not sure who you were listening to, but I seem to remember from the beginning that one of Israel's stated goals was to remove Hamas from power. The hostages getting released was a condition for any pauses or ceasefires.
Their true goal is to erase Palestine period. Hamas could be removed tomorrow, hostages freed and that wouldn’t stop them. They would say the new regime is “backed by Hamas” or “contains remnants of Hamas” or is “influenced by Hamas” and they’ll continue. Until the international community condemns them completely for this, they will continue to their true goal.
Condemns? No they give a shit what says in public, as long as they're receiving the weapons and money they need to carry on.
That was never stated as official policy. Nor the actions aligned with it. You confuse Israel with Hamas, who both stated and acted upon it.
Many israelis only recently discovered that Hamas offered a hostage exchange since the very beginning.
This war never was about getting hostages released.
The hostages gave the Israeli government a very nice and convenient excuse to do what they always wanted to do but never could.
It's the same as bush with 9/11 invading Iraq even though Osama bin Laden was known not to be there. He literally said he didn't care about bin Laden, let's go get Iraq's oil!
The Israeli government wants the Palestinian lands and the Palestinians, apparently, all dead or gone. This reminds me of some other very large and sad event in history, the name eludes me for a second....
It was never about the hostages
For anyone interested, Wikipedia has a page on the current hostage situation and some history.
According to Wikipedia, one of the "deals" Hamas has offered Israel was that Isreal release all Palestinian prisoners. That would be thousands of prisoners in exchange for hostages Hamas took on the 7th of October.
Why are you using prisoners for one and hostages for the other?
From the Wikipedia page I linked to:
Hamas has offered to release all hostages in exchange for Israel releasing all Palestinian prisoners.
That's the Wikipedia bias. The vast majority of pages are written and maintained by a small number of people with a Western Centrist perspective, which tends to be more conservative. You start to notice it more once you see it for the first time.
Is Khalil al-Hayya, senior Hamas official also tainted by western bias?
From Al Jazeera (also western bias?):
Khalil al-Hayya, a member of the group’s political bureau, said that Hamas “is serious about releasing Israeli captives within the framework of an agreement” that also ensures the release of thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails.
So to summarize: The Palestinian prisoners are referred to as prisoners by Hamas. The non combatants taken hostage by Hamas are not referred to as prisoners by Hamas.
Whether you think the terrorist organisation Hamas are tainted by western bias or not is a different discussion that I'm not interested in taking part in.
Have a nice evening. I will.
Wikipedia containing israeli propaganda? What a surprise!
Is it ok to quote Khalil al-Hayya, senior Hamas official ?
From Al Jazeera:
Khalil al-Hayya, a member of the group’s political bureau, said that Hamas “is serious about releasing Israeli captives within the framework of an agreement” that also ensures the release of thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails.
So to summarize: The Palestinian prisoners are referred to as prisoners by Hamas. The non combatants taken hostage by Hamas are not referred to as prisoners by Hamas.
Whether you think the terrorist organisation Hamas are paid off by Isreal or not is a different discussion that I'm not interested in taking part in.
The different is semantics
One group are prisoners and one group are hostages
The difference is due to the military control Israel has over the Occupied Palestinian Territories. Palestinians are tried in a military court with no civil rights or representation, tortured into false confessions, and incarcerated with routine torture, sexual abuse, and denial of basic medical care. That includes hundreds if not thousands of children.
Palestinians denied civil rights (HRW) including Military Court (B'TSelem)
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel including Child abuse - Save The Children
Torture and Abuse in Interrogations - B'TSelem
Thousands of Palestinians are held without charge under Israeli detention policy - NPR
Which one 3 week old sockpuppet account?
And I'm sure the Israelis will be quite fond of this stance that flips the bird at literally the single part of this whole debacle that they themselves are interested in
But khamaaas just needs to hand over the hostages and the war will end! The ZioBots have been screaming this for the last 8 months it must be true! Surely they wouldn't gaslight people into saying this was never said!
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