The constant successes of China are the only thing that have given me anything even resembling hope since Bernie lost in 2016, and then briefly again when there was that 3 week period where all the polls said he'd sweep the 2020 election (you know, before super Tuesday when everyone but Warren dropped out and endorsed Biden but Warren was all OHHHH I DUNNOOOOOO)

nobody needs to tell me the ways Bernie sucks, I already know

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

Remember Warren not only refused to drop out, but made up some lie about Bernie being sexist to her. Such a fucking warren-snake-green , I can't believe I know "progressives" who still like her

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

I swear, I'm stuck in podunk Ohio and everything feels almost exactly the same as it did in the 2000s, except everything got uglier.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

that's because you haven't bootstrapped your way into owning a jet ski dealership so that you can live the american dream

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

it's the only thing keeping me going at this point, that there still exists places in the world where good things are possible

[-] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Not having to worry about falling through the cracks, or where the next meal is coming from, or what will happen to me if I get sick. The biggest worry is that the country with the world's biggest nuclear arsenal, and the only country to ever use one, wants to solve its economic problems by destroying my economy.

[-] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago

Massive China W

It's not just ethical, it's smart. Non-renewables are a ticking time bomb, and investment in solar is going to pay off many times over in the long run.

[-] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

porky-scared but what about the quarterly profits???

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Long run? Okay tankie. Go ride your light rail to your ghost city in some desert

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

Libs will ignore this and point to all the coal China is also building, ignoring that most of that coal is just backup and supplement while they continue to ramp up and improve the stability of their renewables.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

It's not just backup, it's for developing areas that haven't got the right material conditions to transition to green energy. Liberals don't realize China is still a developing nation (or rather think the Chinese are inferior to them) so they assume they're building coal because they're malicious, and not like, developing.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

they also have extremely high energy demands due to all the manufacturing that occurs in China, which then gets exported as goods to the West

Tons of the pollution and energy consumption in China is actually the West's consumption, just offset geographically

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

And even including the manufacturing, per capita the Chinese pollute less than Americans lol

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

Buht aht whut cohst

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

There was a hilarious story on one of the local bay area news stations the other day about "THE LARGEST SOLAR PROJECT COMPLETED" with no further qualifiers as to where and over what time period they meant. They showed some aerial footage of it, and it's basically some solar panels in an area less than the size of a football field. Apparently in the California that's a pretty big deal.

If only they'd look past their own noses to see what China has been up to in the past 20 years.

[-] YuccaMan@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

Apparently in the California that's a pretty big deal

It's not even a big deal in California. Not too long ago I saw the big solar farm out near Blythe, coming back from a trip to Arizona. It's not even the largest one in the state, and it sounds like it dwarfs the one they're talking about.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Apparently California is pretty far progressed on its track to renewable energy?

What's shown on the image is california electricity generation in ~~April~~ May 20, 2024 (But the data is representative for all of April as well). Yellow is solar, red line is demand.

I don't have the source rn, I only have this screenshot stored on my phone.

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I think the source is pv-magazine-usa.com?

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

Germany: 15 GW installed 2023

USA: 25 GW installed 2023

the US really is pathetic, you're telling me we couldn't even double the total installations of a country with what, like 5x less people, 6x lower GDP, and 40x less land? seems like the general increase hasn't even changed from trump's presidency either, are biden and a blue senate even pretending to improve things at this point?

[-] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

are biden and a blue senate even pretending to improve things at this point?

Yes they're pretending, and almost half of that farce of a country is pretending along with them.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

some-controversy favorite emoji

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I basically look to them as the largest of a handful of non-unserious countries

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

But at what cost?

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