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[-] Sat@lemmy.world 132 points 3 months ago

Bottoming? Your life is in my hands, fools!

[-] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 87 points 3 months ago

Okay, so power bottoming.

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 58 points 3 months ago

About to say, I'll be kind, but you wanna sass me? When I kept your ass alive in the fire? When I'm topping your DPS while pulling the tank outta the red? Bitch, I'll keep myself alive while I walk outta here.

Don't cross your healers. We might sometimes be sluts for some praise, don't mean we'll take shit.

[-] Ozy@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

sluts for praise

bro you really didn't have to word it like that mane cmon

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

"Healers aren't bottoms but also did I do a good job healing you today~ uwu"

[-] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 78 points 3 months ago
[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Is topping in this situation not gay? Are we doing Roman rules?

[-] HUMAN_TRASH@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

It's a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard.

[-] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago

Peak t-shirt slogan humor, I'm sure. Very ironic. 👍

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 60 points 3 months ago

Are you kidding? Healers are the ultimate in big dom(me) energy. We hold all the power. You will beg us on your knees for just a taste. What's that baby? You got yourself all beat up and now you need some hit points do you? Just a few little hit points to keep you going? You little slut. You little hp whore. Say you want it slut. Say you want that healing so bad. Say you'll do anything for it.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

LMAO! I mean they basically extend your HP bar to infinity, limited only by their cooldowns and mana pool.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Yeah my Mistress plays a healer. As a bottom I’m way more of a tank

[-] clark@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

That’s hot. Power me up, doctor.

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[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago

Healer mains: when you get sick of nobody healing so you do it yourself, only to realize you enjoy people appreciating your hard work. It's the start of a long road that ends in wanting to be railed by the best DPS main 😔

The only downside is you eventually end up hanging out with so many healer mains that you get forced to DPS 😫

I was so pissed when OW2 limited teams to a single tank. They were such a good fallback when I didn't get to heal.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I love being a healer. Guess I should do some self discovery

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Say classes that depend on a healer being active behind them ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago

DPS when they don't have a healer stuffed firmly up their ass:

runs straight at enemies and dies within half a second

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 34 points 3 months ago

The only time I had fun being a healer was when I made a shaman in WoW, and it's mostly because it was like being a cleric in D&D; a tank that can heal. I would do BGs and invariably wreck fools who thought targeting the healer would be easy. 😈

[-] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

In the early days of Rift there was a mage build that used a bunch of attacks to target what the tank was targeting and would build your crit chance to 85%+ and then crit heal the tank for their entire bar. The tanks absolutely hated it, but it was the most fun healing I've done across 10+ MMOs, MOBAs, and arena shooters

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[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 12 points 3 months ago

I'm a cleric on undeath and indulgence in Pathfinder and it's great. Really good healing and can call down huge blasts of fire and summon a demon friend. I consider it a switch who brings their own threesome.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 10 points 3 months ago

In Bad Company 2 the medic class can kill people with the defibrillator, which is fun. Sneak up behind an oblivious enemy and shock them to death.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In the original Team Fortress (and maybe TFC, I don't really remember) the medic gave people on the other team AIDS if they used their healing pack weapon on them.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Goddamn I loved BC2

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[-] RedditRefugee69@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

How to not get any healers and reveal yourself as a self-centered ass

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 25 points 3 months ago

Y'all debating if DPS or Healers are bottoms and sleeping on the bottomest role of all, the Tank.

Being a Tank is all about getting a train run on you until you can barely move and then leaning in for some aftercare. And you do barely any penetrating. It doesn't get more submissive than that.

[-] Bobmighty@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

I play healer sometimes because it's a fun gameplay challenge to keep bumbling idiots alive long enough to get a victory.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago
[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Power bottom

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Pfft, try Tanking.

DPS: how DARE YOU fail to prevent me from drawing aggro and killing myself!

Also DPS: y u no parse good?

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I swear DPS players are just jerks:
Me: Applies continuous healing and damage resistance to DPS
DPS: Walks right through multiple DoT inflicting AOEs and into the middle of a huge group of enemies immediately dying.
DPS: How dare you not keep me alive!

[-] Aganim@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I tried returning to WoW (Classic) after a 10 year absence, thought I'd try tanking for a change instead of healing. Deadmines, what could go wrong?

Well, one mage managed to not only constantly draw agro from me, he also bumbled into the next group of mobs while the rest was still regaining mana again and again. Looted the box that starts that boss fight with a Tauren while the rest was not ready and wiping the party as a result. After that we all concluded that pressing on wasn't going to work. Fucking hell, never gotten such a toxic shit load of crap in my chat ever before, he sent me a book's worth of profanities all because "I sucked at tanking" according to him. Decided then and there that this was not the way how I wanted to spend my free time. When I quit WoW I already noticed that the social aspect was going down the drain, apparently it hasn't gotten any better during my absence.

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[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

If healers are bottoms, they're power bottoms.

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago

Bad healers think that.

[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm nowhere near as into MMOs as I was years ago, but I honestly preferred non-DPS roles. Healing was my forte and I actually feel proud of myself for nearly clearing Icecrown Citadel Heroic during my WoW heyday. Had to quit several weeks into joining a decent guild because of sixth form.

Dunno whether it's a European thing but I've always found MMO (and MOBA) communities to be toxic-as-fuck and that's what turned me away from hardcore raiding. Things were once so bad that I got bullied and harassed off of a server (Turalyon EU, horde side) during my teenage years.

I could write an entire novella of negative experiences I've had with players in both game genres, but I'd be going off on a massive tangent.

All I'll say is that this meme is accurate. Healers get a lot of flak when things go wrong, and it takes a certain level of masochism to actually want to play with the kind of verbally abusive, sociopathic, basement-dwelling turbovirgins that flip out with slur-filled nerd rage, messages telling you to off yourself, and wishes that you'll die of cancer, all because you didn't parse highly during a raid boss or didn't carry their hardstuck asses in a Ranked League of Legends game.

The hardest part about World of Warcraft (at least from a PvE perspective) isn't playing your class well. It's having to wade through a community rife with elitism, gatekeeping, unattainable catch-22's to join a raid group and toxicity. Final Fantasy XIV is a bit better, but that's because unlike Blizzard, Square Enix actually invest in customer service and actually enforce their player conduct rules.

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Toxic guilds is why I stopped playing wow. Can confirm. Also healing is both harder and more fun than dpsing when done right

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There's a moment where it stops being about "I can heal my entire party!" and it becomes "I choose who lives and dies" and finally "If I choose wrong the raid is lost"

[-] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago

i think the idea here is, that bottoming is like helping someone (the top) out and more selfless. you arent doing it because it feels good, but because someone else wants to penetrate something.

i think this is an interesting idea. it seems very patriarchical. seeing bottoms (traditionally women) as passive, submisse sex object, that dont need to enjoy it. its all about the dominant tops (traditionally men).

i think some parallels can be drawn from this incorrect image, to how healers are seen by those they heal

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Eh, only works for specific games. Medics and healers are purposely badass in a bunch of games specifically because of this attitude and the need to make sure people play the class.

[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Healing in FFXIV is the most fun I had in MMO, having to do mechanics, dps and keeping grp alive

[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think the reason FFXIV is enjoyable is more-so that if you act like a toxic dickwad, you'll be yeeted out of the community at record pace by Square Enix, because unlike Blizzard, they actually enforce their game rules.

Healing is fun when the community is supportive and not when people are blowing a gasket over imperfect play.

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[-] shadowscale@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 months ago

i am once again asking people to stop conflating bottoming and subbing

bottom means your on the bottom, sub means your submissive. you can be a dominant bottom and a submissive top. i've been both

anyways healers will dom you, it's tanks that will be submissive. we're masochists

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

eh, i always feel like good supports can make or break a team. like if you're a good DPS player, whoopdie doo, anyone without a life can train themselves to oblivion for some mechanical skill but the game sense, decision making and reactions needed for support players are much more impressive to me.

there's nothing that feels more awesome to me as a (generally) DPS player to take insane risks and get out alive due to supports having your back. never felt like a top/dom in such situations. more like buddy cops.

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At least it's an interesting role. I've always played FPS, which seems so vanilla. And I play ESO solo a lot, so about 25% of the time I forget to take off the Ring of the Pale Order when I do dungeons, which prevents being healed.

Maybe it's time to try my hand at a bottom build.

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

Healing is a very interesting experience, for me. You need a whole new level of awareness, as you're now watching what everyone is doing, and need them working in line to best do your job. Resource management is on a whole other level when you now have all of yours, the entire parties health and buffs, and whatever the boss has counting down.

It's a very active style of play, especially once triage comes in. When shit hits the fan, you need to decide who you can even try to save, and if they're worth saving. I've had times that I left a DPS on the ground because it was quicker to just start dumping all I had into burning down the boss, and grab 'em up after the fact.

Then comes in the fun of having multiple healers. You gotta work out who's taking what chunk, if and when you need to cover each other, and half the time you might end up healing the wrong people, because at some point you stop seeing the names. It's just health bars and cool downs. Nothing matters except keeping those bars just full enough.

I gotta say I always appreciate the healer. Not sure I'd have the mental bandwidth to do a good job.

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

It takes the right kind of person. I don't know what, exactly, is broken in us, but there's just something about all the chaos and going "Yeah, I can turn this into order". People thought I was kidding when I told them tanking was me taking a mental break. Hell yeah, it was, shout at things, make sure to use my squishes as fart-targets, and just shut my brain off and let all of the rage I've built up keeping idiots alive out by smashing this things face in.

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