144
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Yuritopiaposadism@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
all 19 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 63 points 5 months ago

"274" takes up a lot less space and is far more informative than "scores of". I hate the word phrase "scores of". When media outlets want to manipulate public sentiment they use to make the number in question seem a lot (if not vastly) smaller.

I think when the average American hears the word "scores" they very roughly imagine something like 50 to 100. That sounds a hell of a lot better than the first media reports that indicated the estimated number was - at the time - probably ~200.

And even now when the number is 274 - they still use it!

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 47 points 5 months ago

if only there was a word for like a multiple of a hundred...hmm maybe "hundreds"!

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

Am curious what the US media will do in following situation - god forbid it happens. Israel launches an monstrous attack in Gaza on a UN school. An Al Jazeera reporter eye witness watches the attack unfold and she's nearly killed herself. In the immediate aftermath she says that it appears that the IDF killed at least several hundred people. It's clearly a bloodbath.

It's obvious the US media will avoid the word "school" and it will use passive grammatical constructions. But they will want to avoid "hundreds" if they can. Will they still use "scores of"?

My first thought is the go-to hasbara phrase that becomes their copypasta is "large scale operation". Hours later when the number of dead is estimated at least 500 - they use euphemisms like "There was an unfortunate large scale loss of life".

---

What do you (person reading this) think?

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

the US media will avoid the word "school"

It'll be the icing on the cake if they use the word 'madrasa', the Arabic word for school, used by the media correctly for once since ever

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

I mean that sounds like exactly what just happened, unless that's your point

[-] micnd90@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago

Whats with the new phrase "scores of" - seems like it is repeated everywhere among supposedly independent news institution, this one from NYT

It's almost if someone is "manufacturing consent"

chompsky

[-] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

"Four Score and Seven Years Ago"

-some guy, idk

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 5 months ago

Maybe I am wrong here, but last I heard, all these "hostages" were actually POWs as in they were active Israeli "Defense" Force members captured by militants belonging to Hamas or other allied armed resistance groups. Military members who are captured are prisoners of war, not "hostages" under the Geneva convention. I mostly just bring this up constantly to forcefully remind the Nazis online that these weren't just happy little innocent kids captured (these specific people). And also to remind them that KHamas could have, and by many people's logic should have, simply executed the IOF soldiers for all the war crimes they participated in upon Palestinians. And yet they chose to abide by the laws of war as far as that goes. Just little sprinkles of "hmm, interesting... the barbarians had the perfect opportunity to do horrible barbaric things, yet did not... hmm..." to enrage dying, lead-poisoned boomer brains online. Even the light suggestion that everyone in the IOF deserves their own tribunal at this point is enough to send many off into incoherent racist rants.

[-] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Israel is allowed to invent any word it wants to describe anything it does. And American media will happily parrot it. Hamas is the government and took illegal settlers and their military cadre prisoner? No that sounds too legitimate. Hamas are terrorists and they took civilians hostage. There we go. Print it, ship it, air it, no questions asked.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

And then the American public will parrot it back again.

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

four score and seven dead arabs ago

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

sadness-abysmal thirteen score and 14

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

All we can do is keep marching, agitating, fighting. Because Israel has, against all odds, brought a reckoning upon it that I never thought I'd see.

The state now can't survive long term, and now thebonly question is how it falls and if it can be done with maximum equity and minimum bloodshed. We can pay a part in making the state collapse internally.

Because the other option is a regional war and possibly a short terror by the oppressed Palestinians, despite the infinite forbareance and compassion and mercy they've shown so far. And who could blame them?

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

There were some 400 non fatal casualties as well that will probably die due to lack of medical care in the next few days. So even that number is already kinda sugar coating it.

[-] indred0@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

The honest way to report it would be 13 score and 14 dead Palestinians for a fifth of a score of PoWs.

this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2024
144 points (100.0% liked)

chapotraphouse

13556 readers
718 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Gossip posts go in c/gossip. Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from c/gossip

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS