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Prove you're not a Warforged (ttrpg.network)
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Both of the guards have a handle. If the guard that always lies pulls his handle, then the minecart will divert to the second track. If both guards pull their handle, the prisoners will be released. One of the handles is covered by a wooden box, where half of the wooden planks of the original box have been replaced by new ones cut from a tree that fell when nobody was around. If guard A is taller than guard B, are we getting paid for this quest?

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[-] MrZweihander@lemmynsfw.com 61 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My favorite take on the always tells lies/always tells truths puzzle is that the explanation itself was also a lie and both guards will say whatever they think is funniest because guarding is boring work.

[-] ahdok@ttrpg.network 22 points 5 months ago

I did do that about 800 comics ago ;)

[-] TerrificTadpole@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I would be so hyped to run into these two in a dungeon.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 37 points 5 months ago

Do I include the square with the tiny portions of the feet or no?

[-] ahdok@ttrpg.network 44 points 5 months ago

When drawing this, I eyeballed it, but I tried to aim it to leave these tiny portions - because that's more accurate to the CAPTCHA experience.

[-] TerrificTadpole@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

I suppose the DM has a contingency plan for if someone casts Zone of Truth

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

But does the DM have a contingency plan if someone casts Fireball?

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 25 points 5 months ago

Guardian portraits, because whoever wrote the "ordinary-looking furniture with counterspell" statblock was presumably really fed up of their sorcerer player

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If this was a real captcha, even a human couldn't solve it because you can't question the guards... They're just an image. ๐Ÿ˜”

But imagine if the human check became some crazy Voigt-Kampf test with problems such as this that require a type of problem solving skill humans have but an AI doesn't.

[-] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 19 points 5 months ago

Please select all squares with a tortoise that you flipped out it's back and type the reason you're not helping in the box below.

[-] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 18 points 5 months ago

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 12 points 5 months ago

"Which way is west?"

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I dunno, can't see the Sun from inside a dungeon

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 12 points 5 months ago

This one's the Truthsayer, other one is a liar.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Unless he absolutely does know which way is west because he has, like, gone outside at least once. Or owns a compass.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 6 points 5 months ago

Sounds like we're making a lot of modifications to the setting here, but that would require the other guard to also not know because he actually doesn't. If either of them makes a definitive answer which you can then verify, then you can solve it.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The part about not being able to see the sun is almost certainly true, though, and the usual premise of the riddle is that one of them ONLY tells the truth and one ONLY lies.

As such, either you're in something as implausible as a dungeon with a skylight or that guard is the truth teller.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What if the other one also answers they don't know?

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I mentioned in the adjacent comment thread that circumstance: if one of them gives a verifiable answer then it is solved, if neither of them know: that requires one of them does know and is lying and one actually doesn't know, which is a very odd stipulation, but you can just ask them any other question with one true answer. "What is 2 + 2?"

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

For this concept to work you need to only be allowed one question, I reckon

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Wrong. If one points a direction, they may have just been actually familiar with the layout of the castle.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes. That's exactly the point. If one of them points west, he is telling the truth. If one of them points any other directions then they're a liar. The only way this prompt doesn't work is if one of them knows and lies about knowing and the other actually doesn't know, which is a very hyper-specific circumstance.

[-] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 6 points 5 months ago

These solutions always forget that the key part of the puzzle is you only get one question. The challenge is to both determine which guard is telling the truth and to get the information you need in a single question.

[-] ahdok@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago

What if the guard answers "I don't know" ?

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago

You're having a stroke.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

"Hmmm, couldn't solve the riddle. Well, might as well masturbate"

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

An ischemic stroke occurs when the blood supply to part of the brain is blocked or reduced. This prevents brain tissue from getting oxygen and nutrients. Brain cells begin to die in minutes. Another type of stroke is a hemorrhagic stroke. It occurs when a blood vessel in the brain leaks or bursts and causes bleeding in the brain. The blood increases pressure on brain cells and damages them.

A stroke is a medical emergency. It's crucial to get medical treatment right away. Getting emergency medical help quickly can reduce brain damage and other stroke complications.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

I would've said an emergency stroke is when someone says they'll be gone for "5-15 minutes"

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

With your introduction, you don't really leave a good enough impression for me to care what you would have said.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

Hold up have we met before or what introduction are you talking about?

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

AFAIK the first thing you ever said to me was an off topic comment about masturbation.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Are you talking about the stroke joke?

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