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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 79 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, let's treat these people who have lost all hope for the future like bratty children, I'm sure that will work.

Fuck these articles.

To any gen Z reading this, don't fall for the shaming. They did the same shit to us Millennials and all it did was make us work for nothing and burn out. Your boss just wants more production and profit at the cost of your body and mind.

You are worth more than what they're offering. You deserve a future.

[-] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

I fully support NEETism if that’s what you call it. I’m a Zillennial or whatever the fuck and I’ve worked my entire adult life in the trades. FUCK WORK. There are no jobs that pay enough, the hours are long, and no one gives a fuck about you. Never feel bad for not having a job, you deserve to live however you want. If I was born even a few years later than I was I’d be a fuckin NEET too. There is no incentive AT ALL to do ANYTHING it’s crazy to think people wouldn’t act this way.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 months ago

I'm a millennial with a PhD and more disillusionment than ever. I hope that gen z keeps fighting the good fight, and I'll help them wherever I can. It can only make my life better.

[-] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 53 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Thats crazy its almost like its a rational response to the only options in life as a worker which are to work and destroy your mind and body for the worst jobs humanly possible for the worst pay legally possible for the opportunity to have marginally more money to spend in a dying society on a dying planet or do that as little as possible

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

"But the youngin's have it easy!" :smuglord: - average boomer capitalist

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago

Boomers got handed the american dream on a platter during the zenith of the american empire. Of course if they were white and male that is, women and minorities still got a boot to the face.

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We talk a lot here about how pointless it is to vote but it’s way worse for capitalism if we are unemployed, simply because we refuse to generate labor for the capitalist class. I’ve been thinking about this because I’ve been working full-time for almost three months after being unemployed for years and it just sucks to be aware that even the wages I get eventually end up back in the Cayman Islands, where they are then reinvested in blowing up Palestinian children.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

love to have my taxes used to arm nazis and burn children alive. the more money I make, the more guns nazis get

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

But if you don't fund the Nazis and dead kids with your labor, then YOU are the one who gets to starve to death 🙃

Great system

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 42 points 5 months ago

Every 6 months they need to come up with a new "quiet quitting" term to try to yet again defelct from the lack of material conditions.

[-] Zodiark@hexbear.net 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Calling 15-18 year olds "NEET" is a wild one.

I think it's okay to take a gap year after high school, and take breaks from employment, education, and training now and then.

Just don't do it for too long or you'll turn into felix-linus

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

If you're 15 and you're not in education or an apprenticeship/training of some kind, the state has failed you.

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[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

I would be okay with a generation of Felixs

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago

15-18 yos? The oldest of Gen Z are about to turn 30. Not saying they're justified, just that Gen Z isn't just 15.

[-] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

In their defense, the youngest members of Gen Z are around that age range.

[-] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

To be fair, child labor is legal again so these 15 year olds could already have 5-9 years of experience under their belt. They are being lazy and entitled by loafing about in school and learning how to read.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If there was a future worth planning for they might behave differently. What's the point in saving up cash or buying a house or having kids when during education you've sat in classrooms discussing the upcoming literal end of the world through climate change?

All these kids have looked at the evidence for it and come to this conclusion.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

its almost like we have surplus productivity and extra labor is unnecessary

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

don't let the capitalist class know this, or the purges will begin of the unneeded "excess labor"

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Great way for them to pound the accelerator

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 5 months ago

Could it be that entry level positions require 12 years experience and don't even offer a living wage? No, it must be because the kids these days are lazy.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

It's rich that they have been spouting that "young'uns are lazy and will never be as cool as us boomers!" for almost 12 years and won't see the irony. It's the same tired mental masturbation I've seen all my life.

Maybe they will get real answers if they actually let gen Z and millennials speak rather than have another baby boomer speak on our behalf.

[-] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 5 months ago

I was a neet for a couple of years. honestly with how little I work these days it still feels like I am one sometimes. feels like there's no point in participating when the country doesn't want to give anything back to you.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago

Someone once told me every hour and American works they make $90 for the economy. So if, let's say, they had to give $30 of that to income tax and $30 for the business why does the worker at minimum get $7.25?

[-] roux@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I was told by family that I no longer associate with that a minimun wage was meant to b a "starter wage." Like they were implying that working as a teen/young adult was meant for practice. I've also been told by another lib that "both sides", as in Dems and Reps, need to "come to a compromise on minimum wage." Which means, of course, still less than a minimum living(last I talked to that guy, he was selling his second Corvette since he didn't need it but obviously was an authority on minimum wage). The thing is that people that are only slightly smarter than these 2 I mention run this country. Everything is fucked Death to America.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

The whole "starter wage" idea makes sense if it's paired with shit like on the job education, training, grace periods for fuck ups, schedules that encourage them to finish school etc. But it doesn't. If somebody can't live off the wages what the fuck are we starting? Debt peonage?

[-] Zodiark@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I suspect that's what it used to be, and that's how boomers came of age under or how Gen X recall their parents career trajectory.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Pretty much. That's why they believe in things like being loyal to your employer. They would not believe in such things if it hadn't been practical at one point in their lives. It even goes way back to ancient times. Apprenticeship is how you get artisan crafts and carry experience forward.

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[-] Procapra@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago

I guess I would qualify as a NEET. I don't work and never got a degree or certification in anything. I'm also gen Z. My fiance pays the rent currently, but if it ever came down to a "work or lose your home" situation I'd get a part time job at least.

I've spent most of the last 4 years or so making shit attempts at organizing (mostly adventurism if I'm being honest) spent some time in some orgs, but otherwise I've been pretty lost. I fucking hate reading, but I manage to read something theory related every month or so. I feel like I have to do something, but I realize all the time that I am woefully ill equipped to change my conditions and that leads to me getting a tad defeatist.

I've found many of my peers are in similar situations, wanting the world to change but not having the tools to fix it.

[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

Oh no! I’m not doing child labor!

[-] dayna@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago
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