People arguing about the price of gas, but as soon as someone mentions driving an EV they're "stupid" and woke
That's Facebook for you. People love to complain about things that take them out of what they have gotten used to but the moment someone offers a possible solution they dig their heels in the sand.
They're essentially just shouting out and seeing how many people will absentmindedly agree and reaffirm their view point
Oh it's a standard social media echo chamber, and I'm well aware that we're in one here too. But at least here we aren't saying that the gas prices are a conspiracy done by the dEMoCrAtS!! Of course to them the only solution is to... have big government regulate gas prices, god forbid they think about alternatives
I agree Facebook just specifically annoys me because it's a lot of dumb posts put out without forethought.
Facebook is the worst social media site of all where boomers and racist people shouting at each other. The best one can do is to delete themselves.
Not defending them, but if I can't afford a tank of gas I likely can't afford a whole new car. Hell I can afford a tank of gas and I still can't afford a new car.
For a while, with state and federal rebates, new EVs were ridiculously cheap but a lot of people didn't realize it. My brother leased a Nissan Leaf for my niece for $100 a month. I realize leasing isn't for everyone, but $100 a month for a car for a teenager is pretty damn reasonable until she can afford to buy something for herself.
They're insanely cheap RIGHT NOW. lol
You can get a used 2018-2020 Tesla (or any other brand) for $25k and then $4k back through a tax credit.
That's not cheap to me, that's a normal price for a new car. My current car cost thousands less than that and is still great.
Sure, but normal new car prices are ridiculous right now.
Apparently the average is 48K! https://www.moneygeek.com/insurance/auto/average-price-of-a-new-car/
Yikes, a new subcompact is 23K on average.
Tesla is the worst electric car because it supports Elon Musk
Yeah not a lot of second hand ev's out there to buy.
Lots of them on Autotrader when I looked a week ago.
The problem is, they still want $40k for a used EV.
'The worlds changing and change scares me!'
"BUT WHERE DO THEY THINK THAT POWER EVEN COMES FROM!!????"
Well, if someone would spend two seconds thinking about it, renewable are a good investment. It's not like we want to stop burning coal today, but this argument gets me everytime.
Plus, burning fossil fuels in a dedicated generator in optimal conditions, then converting that to electricity, transferring that electricity over the grid to an electric car generates less emissions than burning it straight in an ICE engine to convert it into kinetic energy. Even if you ignore all the fossil fuels that are burned during extraction, transport and conversion before it gets to your local petrol station.
Exactly. Even if you're not using renewables to charge your EV, they're still significantly more fuel efficient due to the gains you get from producing energy in a power plant instead of through a small engine. I read somewhere that an EV with a 300 mile range is using the same amount of fuel to charge as if you were burning 3 gallons of gasoline.
Yeah... The power for my EV comes from my solar panels. Both a great investment. Now that the electricity company is raising rates on electricity usage, I'm even happier with my decision.
The only thing coal has going for it is you can burn it when the sun is down and the wind has stopped. Solar makes more financial sense
"On average, the marginal cost for the coal plants is $36 each megawatt hour, while new solar is about $24 each megawatt hour, or about a third cheaper.,Only one coal plant – Dry Fork in Wyoming – is cost competitive with the new renewables."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/30/us-coal-more-expensive-than-renewable-energy-study
Republican moral compass makes an excellent ceiling fan
But gas prices are so high due to Biden lowering the supply by checks notes conditioning any expansion of renewable energy on first increasing the amount of federal land leased out for extraction of oil and gas many times over.
Huh. Guess BOTH parties are lying about him. Who'da thunk that the senator from MBNA (second biggest credit card company before being bought by Bank of America) would be on the side of big business? 🤔
gas prices are so high because biden ate all of it
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Basically they've been told to hate it. The oil industry has spent millions pushing all kinds of misinformation to make sure we wouldn't move off oil, even if there are a million reasons beyond just global warming why it would be a great idea. We've known since the 70s that this would be an issue, and governments around the world have just all been ignoring the issue for half a century.
Yeah, at first it was the "glorified golf cart" angle, but when Tesla proved that wasn't true, it turned into "they're too expensive", "ackthually they pollute more", "rare earths", etc... There will always be something.
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Got my 🅱️ig 🅱️rained takes here:
In many use cases, EVs are worse for the environment
Even in these cases, it might be better for the society in that pollution is no longer concentrated in towns and around roads but at power plants where mitigations can be centrally handled by solutions that can be made to scale
In many cases, EVs are far inferior. In many cases, ICEs are far inferior.
I wish I could afford an EV plox send monies
What's awesome about this is when you drive a hybrid. All your power comes from gas or regenerative braking, but it's so efficient that it's still painful to the average Republican
There's no 'or', really. That kinetic energy you're capturing with regen braking, you got that by burning gas. All your energy comes from burning gas.
Unless it has a plug, it's a gas car.
Is Elon Musk good or bad in their eyes then?
Most seem to conveniently overlook that he has a company that produces EVs.
