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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Hey everyone,

The Fedihosting Foundation is looking for a new site-admin for Lemmy.World, to help our busy team. This moderator will help with reviewing and acting on reports, weighing in on user content, and helping foster our local communities while acting as a friendly neighbor to other fediverse instances.

You also DO NOT need to have an account on one of our FHF services but WILL have to create an account after joining. Users from other sites WELCOME!

Benefits:

You'll get to work with a great team of passionate kind, goofy individuals from all over the (lemmy) world!
We have weekly virtual hangouts where we brainstorm new ideas and catch up with each other. Community for us is not just a buzzword.
We can also provide work and personal references, as we are a registered legal non-profit.
While not a technical role, you will also gain exposure to best-in-class industry tooling and processes for large-scale hosted applications (aka modern DevOps).
We also run a small blog, that we'd love to have folks contribute to.
Join in on the editorial voice for our featured communities.
We also understand this is a hobby and that family and work come first
- If you're having a hard time finding time or are busy, we will always do our best to help and support you.

Applicants should have the following qualities:

Experience moderating a diverse group of individuals from many geographic, religious, and LGBTQ+ backgrounds.
Able to commit to at least 5-10 hours a week.
Excellent interpersonal skills and communication.
Solid background in conflict resolution.
Must be able to speak English.
Works well asynchronously with remote teams.
Grammar skills optional 😛

Bonus skills (which you will learn if you don't already)

SQL / Business Intelligence software skills.
N8N workflow automation
Web Design (Hugo + GitHub Pages).
Python scripting

Application process:

It goes without saying that we will only be considering applicants with a significant positive history of online posts and/or comments, no trolls, please.
Applicants must be okay with sitting for a video interview and must pass a basic background check.
While not strictly required, a CV with relevant work and volunteer history will help during the application process.
We are an international team that works from both North America EST time (-4) and Europe CEST (+2), so we would ask that candidates be flexible with their availability.

Please apply HERE https://forms.gle/epTdTy9Xh9kNFKsQA

(Edit: Updated post, thanks Donuts!)

(Edit2: Thanks for all the feed back on this post, it's much appreciated 💗💗💗)

(Edit3: If you feel like you'd fit in, apply, the req's that we posted are more of a suggestion, then a hard yes or no)

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[-] Alk@lemmy.world 142 points 4 months ago

My job didn't even require a video interview, this unpaid role has more strict requirements than half the jobs in the US haha.

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 69 points 4 months ago

My guess is it's because it's a similar role to a Reddit Admin, which is to say they're basically a global moderator. Also, having access of any kind to the site's SQL server requires an element of trust. That's probably why they require the video interview.

[-] lwadmin@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Folks that would be brought in would be part of the admin staff and have access to quite a lot. You're on target with that for sure!

[-] mlong99@lemm.ee 48 points 4 months ago

Yep I wish them well but it’s a bit much for a volunteer position

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

Promoted to mod of /pyongyang

I’m glad there’s an effort to avoid weirdos who have our worst interests at heart. Hope some heroes apply and go through the process!

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My job didn’t even require a video interview, this unpaid role has more strict requirements than half the jobs in the US haha.

It's an IT job for a role with big responsibility. Unpaid or not, the role is the role. Filling up the shelves in a grocery store comes with a bit less responsibility.

[-] Alk@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My job is also an IT job with big responsibility. I wouldn't have compared the 2 jobs otherwise. Not sure where you got filling grocery store shelves from.

[-] lwadmin@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Thanks for understanding, we're just trying to be careful 😟

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[-] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 83 points 4 months ago

I'm not applying but I have a comment / suggestion:

A pattern I'm seeing here, in activism and open source is that you basically want the full package right now. While I understand that that is what you need, people like that don't grow on trees.

It would be good if there was a "trainee" position for people to gain the kind of experience you are asking for. And guidance, by you to make sure they learn the right lessons. Possibly including a private-ish best practices handbook or whatever. I know that that means additional work in the short term.

Thanks for reading, all the best wishes!

(Compare to linux' kernel team asking for kernel devs and the policy of "pick any topic you'd like to work on". Do I expect a fully course on everything, bringing me from "high school knowledge" to "kernel dev professional"? No, of course not. But a few book recommendations would be great. In that case. Not sure if you can learn moderation from a book.)

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

It's not exactly uncommon for a listing to advertise the person they want, but to accept applicants with significantly less on the basis that they can get there. Nearly every job I've ever got I was not at the level advertised in something or other.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

............do you have any idea how many times I DIDN'T EVEN APPLY because they said "must have X skill", and I was like "oh.....then I better not waste everybodies time."

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I'd say if you have 80% of the requirements you might as well apply. I would frankly ignore years of experience more or less entirely.

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[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

I'll be honest, I've tried it both ways, turns out I'm just useless.

[-] lwadmin@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

No one is useless 💗

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago

A pattern I'm seeing here, in activism and open source is that you basically want the full package right now. While I understand that that is what you need, people like that don't grow on trees

The post-y2k bust removed a lot of our higher-paid staffers, and those were our mentors. For 2-3 generations of new coders we've been without that crucial "this is WHY it's best-practice" understanding from an experienced peer.

When you lament the loss of ready and experienced volunteers, what we lack are people who've learned at the side of truly talented people and are ready to take on some projects.

Now we have people with free time and a short history of ... Well, it's work.

What I'm saying is, there's a clear cause for the current state, for breach after breach after massive breach, and the lack of stellar volunteers.

This will get better, but - as downvotes will show - the current state is one of massive potential but little realization.

[-] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

When you lament the loss of ready and experienced volunteers, what we lack are people who’ve learned at the side of truly talented people

What I'm actually lamenting isn't the lack of experienced volunteers.

I'm lamenting the fact that the groups in need lack the awareness that nobody is teaching the stuff they need and that they should do it themselves.

E.g. https://kernelnewbies.org/ I wasn't kidding when I mentioned them. Their idea of "outreach" is to open the door and wait for people to fall in. They have no teaching material, they have no recommendations. I'm recognizing that there is something happening that is in my interest and I personally would put in the time to learn whatever is necessary to get to the level that is required to seriously touch that code. I just literally don't know where to start and have no point to connect. There is a https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelMentors mentors program. Not only is their only point of contact a mailing list, if you follow the link, you will find that the mailing list doesn't actually exist.

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[-] Cyanogenmon@lemmy.world 63 points 4 months ago

I'd be happy to apply, but requiring a CV and full background check in addition to a video call interview is a bit steep for me.

Just the video call I'd absolutely be applying, I genuinely believe in Lemmy and want to see it succeed, but not to the point that I'm willing to put this much information into non-employment hands.

Good luck on the search.

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago

I nominate FlyingSquid.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago

Oh, trying to make me put in an honest day's work, huh? Okay then, just for that, I nominate BonesOfTheMoon!

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

I'm woefully under qualified but you and I keep Lemmy hopping.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

I'm as unqualified as you, I'm sure. I don't fit any of the bonus skills and I have no background in conflict resolution. I apparently am a cause of conflict if anything.

Anyway, I don't think either of us is getting the gig, but I'm glad we both try to make Lemmy a better place.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

We really do! We keep it lively.

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[-] i2ndshenanigans@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

I probably check all the boxes. Currently a cyber security engineer have worked in infrastructure for the last twenty years and currently head up the compliance team of the cyber division of the company I work for, I focused mainly on NIST, CMMC, and SOC II compliance. I’ve modded a few forums and discord servers over the last 20 or so years. There is no way in hell I’m dropping private info on a random google doc that’s open to the public. If there is a more secure way send my info send me a message.

[-] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago

The Google form results go only to the management team of our parent non-profit, no one else sees the responses. If you feel that this is not secure enough, you can send a secure PGP email to our security disclosure address. We DO provide it for folks that need more security.

https://legal.lemmy.world/security/#official-channels

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[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 35 points 4 months ago

I feel like „site admin“ is a bit misleading. Then again, lemmy doesnt have a proper distinction between local and site wide moderators afaik.

I‘d be interested to help with real admin stuff like docker containers, dns and firewalls. Let me know if that interests you.

[-] credo@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

Excellent interpersonal skills

Oh well.

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[-] justaderp@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

If a potential candidate doesn't understand why there's a strong vetting process then then don't understand the changing paradigm of human communication. Teaching that is an unacceptable liability. The OpSec is on point. Great work. And, thank you for everything, including tolerance of those that don't yet understand why.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago

You don't get people with 5 years of experience if no one is willing to give you experience.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

There was a line on 3rd rock from the sun that was so relatable to me as a teenager in the 90s.

Tommy, the oldest alien, now trapped in the teenagers body, is trying to get a job at a fast food place. The manager turns him down. And when Tommy asks why, the manager says "I can't hire you, you have no experience!"

And when Tommy asks how you get experience, the manager says "First you get a job". Tommy asks how you get a job, and the manager says "You need experience!"

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[-] SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Serious question, why would anybody do this? These are the requirements of an actual job but without any of the pay. If someone is putting in this much effort, they might as well just apply for a real job and get paid for it.

I understand that you guys want to screen people first, but lmao are you guys going overboard. The people who view this as hobby aren't going to put themselves through such unnecessary and worthless hassle, and the people who want a job won't apply because there's no money involved. The only people who would qualify and want to do something like this are people who literally have no life. These are people who have no family, jobs, or a social life.

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

I take offense to some of that, but I applied to be an admin back in Q3 of last year. After the video interview I got ghosted. Thought I would give this a shot, had another video interview, and yeah I'm not expecting much. So yeah, I'm not even sure the process actually does anything other than waste time.

I do have a very well paying job, family, but you may have called me out on the "no life" thing... Though I do have a car that's become a bit of a project so I don't waste as much time on "IT" shit.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

[-] jpeps@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Honest question; why does this have to be a volunteer role? Is there any room in the Open Collective fund to pay towards renumerating someone for something like this?

[-] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago

At this time, our current budget only provides room for operational costs, such as hosting. We're all volunteers, even Ruud.

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[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I do not qualify...

...and I do not think my posts have "a significant positive history of online posts and/or comments"...

Awesome, either way, keep up the good and hard work y'all do!

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Heya. I'm not interested in that position, but I'm open to moderating another community or two if you need to fill in any gaps for a less demanding role.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I offered my informal CV. Lemmy and the Fediverse the largest group I've ever offered any service to. My largest group is just over 1,800, but it's a relatively homogeneous group needing little mod activity. The commuinity is free to comment on my history, stupidity (lol) and bias. I figure it's fair considering he job app. I'll offer that I respect and enjoy (even if it's verbal sparring) the prospect of opposing reasonable views on Lemmy vs the bots, tropes, reposts, and crabs-in-a-bucket karma-whores on Reddit.

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