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[-] downpunxx@kbin.social 79 points 1 year ago

hahahahah i'd like to see that nazi fuck try, see him wade through discovery, the ADL was built for this shit, it's their very reason for being

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

He prefers to tilt at specially made windmills with sharpened fans.

[-] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

The thing is the added complexity that the plaintiff is adding is just going to extend out the entire process. The filing indicates something like a 60% loss of ad revenue. Even if the case runs smooth as butter, there's no way Musk can get access to the money he's seeking in time to cover the massive loss plus the huge debt obligations he's sacked the company with already.

There's zero ways restitution from this case would ever give the company enough head above water quick enough to prevent drowning in debt.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Please don't call Elon Musk a Nazi it's kind of offensive to Nazi's, and only half true.

Elon Musk is a pedophile Nazi, taking half the description away, almost makes him look nice.

[-] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Elon Musk said Monday that X, formerly known as Twitter, has “no choice” but to file a defamation lawsuit against the Anti-Defamation League amid an ongoing slump in advertising revenue.

“Based on what we’ve heard from advertisers, ADL seems to be responsible for most of our revenue loss,” Musk wrote on Monday. “Giving them maximum benefit of the doubt, I don’t see any scenario where they’re responsible for less than 10% of the value destruction, so ~$4 billion.”

How to avoid being antisemitic, step one: Don't blame your incompetence and piss poor judgement on "the Jews."

Elon Musk: D'oh!

[-] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

So - Twitter has lost $40 billion in advertising revenue?

Sounds about right. Wonder how much more they can lose.

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[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

For context, this all started Thursday when the ADL xeeted that is had a "frank and productive" conversation with X's CEO. She replied with some warm and fuzzy PR bullshit about working together to improve the platform blah blah blah. But the right wing nutjobs weren't happy with the implication that X was in anyway cooperating with the ADL and there was immediate backlash. "Ban the ADL" became a trending hashtag, because, according to the racist majority on X, the ADL is the actual hate group and they pressure advertisers who in turn pressure platforms to "ban free speech." Musk, always quick to undermine the sad sack holding the title "CEO" jumped on that bandwagon and been xeeting about it all weekend, threatening to ban them, generally talking trash, and now threatening to sue.

I find it depressing that I'm aware of all this.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

they pressure advertisers who in turn pressure platforms to “ban free speech.”

This argument of theirs is so strange. Don't advertisers too have free speech? Is the right wing arguing that advertisers shouldn't be allowed to choose to stop advertising with Twitter? What "pressure" can ADL put on them? Does the ADL have legal authority to force advertisers to exit Twitter? No. Is the ADL holding private information about the CEOs of advertisers and extorting the advertisers to leave? Not likely.

Is the ADL communicating a position that the majority of the advertiser's customers find the racist, fascist, and misogynistic content now omnipresent on Twitter distasteful, and therefore harmful to the advertisers' brands and with negative impacts to future sales? Likely yes, but those statements are themselves free speech on the part of the ADL.

What the right wing seems to be arguing is that the definition of free speech should be the right to say whatever racist, fascist, and misogynistic comments they like without anyone making choices of their own to dissociate with the right wing. That's not free speech that's....fascism!

[-] neptune@dmv.social 7 points 1 year ago

Honestly? Musk might be so used to big business wining in court that he thinks they might just reflexively take his side.

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

It's hard to take that seriously when you use "xeeted".

[-] loobkoob@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

The whole website needs to be xeeted out of xistence at this point.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I call them x-cretions. So you x-crete them.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

I almost feel bad for the new "CEO". It really seems like she's doing her best to give the impression that Twitter is still a sane company with reasonable business practices, only for Elon to completely disregard her messaging and do the exact opposite.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

She's doing exactly what she was hired to do.

[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a shitty position to be in so I almost feel bad as well, except literally everyone knew this was going to happen when she joined. But I doubt she thought, "What's the worst that could happen? I have a bland conversation with the ADL, and Musk spends the weekend retweeting self deacribed antisemites and threatening to ban/sue the ADL?"

She is scheduled to be at the Code Conference hosted by the Verge/Vox at the end of September. I'm really interested in how she answers when asked about being undermined, especially now that the undermining has taken the form of her boss just being an outright antisemite.

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[-] markr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

she's a 'ceo' like the barista at starbucks is a 'manager'.

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[-] geekworking@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

One of the oldest most experienced groups at litigation against hate and defamation will have a field day with this. I would not be surprised to see X owing the ADL damages if Musk actually follows through.

This is as nearsighted as DeSantis starting legal battle with Disney.

[-] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Shut up Elon, you unfuckable, racist, dork.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago

Why does he hate free speech so much?

[-] asunaspersonalasst@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

lmao cry about it, Mr Melon.

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[-] markr@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

"You made me do it"! yells the abuser. This ~~utter fucknut~~ psychopathic narcissist can't possibly consider that the lost ad revenue has anything to do with his turning twitter into 4chan.

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago
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[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Isn’t that exclusively for Apple users?

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[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

He is remarkably bad at running a business for a billionaire.

[-] Tedesche@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

That’s because he’s not and never was a businessman. He’s a tech guy who got super lucky and became filthy rich. Musk builds and designs shit, he doesn’t know squat about running a company. He should stick to playing with his rockets and making new roadsters. This whole CEO foray has turned out real bad.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He’s a tech guy who got super lucky and became filthy rich.

Not even that...

He was (at best) an average coder decades ago who used family money to buy lots of startups and a few made a lot of money.

He was a gambler, not a businessman. It's just when you start out wealthy you can keep buying lottery tickets till you win. It doesn't even mean he was good at picking lottery numbers, he could just afford to buy more tickets than other people.

Musk builds and designs shit,

And definitely not that

[-] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Not mine but... Entrepreneurship is like one of those carnival games where you throw darts or something. Middle class kids can afford one throw. Most miss. A few hit the target and get a small prize. A very few hit the center bullseye and get a bigger prize. Rags to riches! The American Dream lives on.

Rich kids can afford many throws. If they want to, they can try over and over and over again until they hit something and feel good about themselves. Some keep going until they hit the center bullseye, then they give speeches or write blog posts about "meritocracy" and the salutary effects of hard work.

Poor kids aren't visiting the carnival. They're the ones working it.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, we are all looking at this backwards. The very definition of survivorship bias.

We always only see the luckiest people. All the richest people have been super lucky, because if they weren't, they wouldn't be the richest. And also the most ruthless for the same reasons.

If you look at all the lottery winners, then by definition you will see people who gambled and won. Because someone has to win. That doesn't mean the lottery winners have some better skillets or are smarter at picking numbers than those who didn't win.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's not even a tech guy. He inherited his money, and then lucked into a couple jobs with actual tech guys that he could take the credit for. His entire career has been built around buying other tech companies that were just taking off, pushing the original founders out, and then taking credit for everything everyone else did.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

... lucked into a couple jobs ...

Strongarmed his way into other people's success, then slapped his name on it and claimed it as his own.

[-] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

He wishes he was a tech guy. He just piggybacks off of everyone else. He's a leech, a parasite.

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[-] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago

Musk builds and designs shit

Does he though?

Musk attaches his name to things others have built and designed.

[-] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago

As surprising as it may sound, most billionaires do not arrive there through competence. They get there by way of inheritance and privilege.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

And lucky timing.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

He's like one step away from claiming the Jews control the world's money supply.

[-] HipPriest@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I'm actually surprised he's not crossed that bridge. I do find it interesting to have a billionaire that doesn't even bother to pay lip service to being a civil human being but is just a massive racist tool.

But you know what if he met these people irl he'd get along fine with them I bet and there wouldn't be these unhinged outbursts. He's a complete paper tiger suffering a case of being terminally online because he thinks it's his job (it isn't).

Maybe he's taking something either prescribed or recreationally that has him perpetually on a knife edge like this.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Didn't Elon bring this on himself by keeping the Nazis though ?

[-] muse@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Not even keeping, explicitly adding them back and unbanning them, and letting them make decisions to ban leftists who spoke out against it (andy ngo recommending people to the chopping block comes to mind)

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

What a fucking loser.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

That's not very free market of you bro.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

He’s suing the anti-defamation league for… defamation. Is this a YouTube prank?

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago
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[-] blazera@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

gotta love America where not making as much money as you wanted is a crime

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