It seems like a flavour of the rubber duck method; by trying to explain it to a third party, you think about it in a different way and find a solution.
Never heard the term but I often do it intuitively
Trust me bro(ette): Rubber duck is the SHIT. I don't even program save for a few rare instances, but any complex issue where you just know something is wrong but can't quite put your finger on it? It works miracles. A lot better tbf if you are actually explaining it to someone who can ask questions, but any object that you can look at is a good substitute.
My cat is my rubber duck. I get some weird looks from her.
You mean prostitute
Initially I thought this comment was threaded under the "my cat is my rubber duck" comment which made it much worse.
Of cause I know someone who can ask questions. It's me.
No, seriously, when I explain it to myself, I come up with questions that really help
The rubber duck method is just another flavor of thinking out loud.
I think it's a bit more than that. I think that the idea is that you simplify the problem so that the rubber duck could understand it. Or at least reformulate it in order to communicate it clearly.
It's the simplification, reformulation or reorganisation that helps to get the breakthrough.
Just thinking out loud isn't quite the same thing.
Even though this is true for like 90% of my thinking (that I can see when I try), so far I'm concinced this ist because I am a predominantly language-and-normal-grammar-rules thinker.
There are people that mostly think via associations of words that don't have to be formulated/ cast into grammar.
And then there supposedly people mainly thinking in pictures or smth, without words.
Anyways for some people rubber duck mode reoresents a change in thinking method, I think
AI in general is only a glorified rubber duck for most cases. The amount of bullshit cobbled together is too high for many uses
Maybe the real artificial intelligence is the regular intelligence we found along the way.
More specifically:
There’s a reason cs50’s ai assistant/tutor is a duck :p
Rubber Duck debugging.
And all we needed was the electricity of a good sized industrial nation state.
To be fair, I've written countless stack overflow posts detailing my problems in hope someone would be able to spot the mistake or error only for me to realize what it was along the way and never even submitting it.
And I didn't even need a 🦆 for it
Education has really failed to impress upon people the importance of asking questions. It's amazing how much time is wasted on making people learn answers to questions they don't even know how to ask.
The most valuable tool I ever got (as a tutor/teacher) was Socratic Questioning. Students not only benefit from its application but it also helps to impress upon them the value (and relative skill) to asking thoughtful questions.
I don't mean to sound like a Mom for Liberty, but to my mind, the American public education system (probably others) is not about developing intelligence but rather preparing children for work and keeping them busy/safe while their parents work, and I'd argue it's not very good at its primary function. The ones who escape with curiosity, capacity, and confidence intact are woefully rare if you care about power to the people and thankfully rare if you care about keeping people easy to control.
Yeah, it's a well known technique in programming called "rubber duck debugging".
The process of explaining the situation forces you to think about it in a different way, which can help you with the debugging.
But, nobody actually credits the duck when it works. It's weird that this guy seems to want to credit ChatGPT
Is it just me or is this a really weird way of repeating what the OP said? He even used the duck emoji for clarity....
You needed a duck. You used one. It didn't really look like a duck but it served the same purpose.
99% of the questions I was going to post to stack overflow were solved before I hit post. Something about really having to think through your problem to give people the most complete information about your problem as possible makes it easier to find the solution.
I did just get a rubber ducky and I didn't know what I should do with it till now.
i wanted to try this, but i only got a hard plastic duck
well that should work, unless you are the infamous reddit user, fuckswithducks, in which case it might also work.
That's like how I cheated through every single test in school I've ever taken. I literally just paid attention to what the teacher said, wrote the answers down, wrote down more answers from the book, and then read them a couple times until I remembered them. I'd come in and just write down all those answers on the test and they'd never suspect a thing. I've still never been caught to this day and I even use it in my life outside of school.
Back in the days of usenet if I had a Linux problem I would carefully research the issue while composing a post asking how to solve it. I needed to make sure I covered every possible option so that people would know just how odd the problem was and that I had taken every reasonable step to fix it. And this was how I hardly ever had to post anything because this process almost always found the answer.
In programming we use a rubber ducky for this
Yea I sometimes use LLM chatbots as a rubber duck.
Is anyone who uses AI just an "AI folk" now?
Yes
People who are using it to solve problems which require equivalent effort of writing a sufficient prompt and just directly solving it without AI at all for sure are AI folk.
A problem well stated is a problem half-solved.
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"Correct question is half of answer"
What a feature. Blueskyians really don’t like birdsite.
Also, hope somebody finds this comment (& Lemmy) via web search
Possible Twitter screenshot
I can't count the number of times I've written out a question for a coworker, answered it myself in the process of phrasing the question and deleted it all. My mentoree has a habit of sending me messages and deleting them a couple seconds later which I'm pretty sure is the same thing.
People can hate ai all they want but if bouncing questions off an ai helps debug a problem go for it.
Ineresting, will make a good topic for my next offline podcast (talking to my friends without a microphone).
Am I the only one that sees all of these AI platforms as just the next iteration of search engines?
You're late lol. Phone assistants such as Siri, Bixby, Google Assistant etc. have already been AI search engines for years. People just didn't really consider it until it got more advanced but it's always been there.
What tech support department doesn't have the "ask the stuffed bear on the counter in the corner out loud your question before asking tech support" system in place ?
Doesn't have anything to do with AI. This is normal in any context where you're asking another party for help.
But sure, people who use AI have never considered thinking before /s
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