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SpaceX chief executive Elon Musk reportedly caused a geopolitical crisis last year, when Ukrainian forces—which have relied heavily on the company’s Starlink satellite communications—were on the verge of striking Russian naval vessels off the coast of Crimea with submersible drones. Concerned that the attack would provoke Russia into using nuclear weapons, Musk unilaterally opted to sever the submarines’ satellite connection, throwing a wrench in the entire assault.

The incident—shared by CNN based on an adapted excerpt from an upcoming book by Walter Isaacson—demonstrates Musk’s increasing unwillingness to lend his satellite network to offensive maneuvers waged by Ukraine. “How am I in this war?” “Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”

After foiling the attack, Musk reportedly received a desperate text from a Ukrainian deputy prime minister, Mykhailo Fedorov, who asked that Musk reinstate the Starlink connection to the drones. “I just want you—the person who is changing the world through technology—to know this,” Fedorov wrote. But Musk refused to reverse course, telling Fedorov that Ukraine “is now going too far and inviting strategic defeat.”

Apparently he was worried that the assault would provoke nuclear war. Musk showing actual thought for the first time in ever.

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 99 points 1 year ago

Apparently he was worried that the assault would provoke nuclear war. Musk showing actual thought for the first time in ever.

When an actual fascist in Musk doesn't want nuclear war but your average wine cave warrior liberal does.

[-] cynetri@midwest.social 35 points 1 year ago

ive been seeing the term "wine cave" a lot recently, can you tell me what it means?

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago
[-] cynetri@midwest.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aaah ok I thought there mightve been something deeper about it. Thanks 👍

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The wine cave in question:

Always remember who these people are. They hide it, but they don't live like us. Keep it in mind especially when they're hand-wringing about better rights for marginalised people or demanding that feeding or housing the homeless be means tested behind 50 different indecipherable rules to make it harder.

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

It’s a rich person thing. Rich libs build a wine cave kind of like how rich Chuds build bunkers

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago
[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Somewhere out there is a chud that stocked their apocalypse bunker with 20 years worth of bud light

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[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Musk isn't a fascist he's a racist idiot so I understand the confusion but there's more to fascism than just that

I mean, I imagine he was wrong about that particular encounter provoking nuclear war, seems like a post-hoc justification from a dipshit that can't make up his mind on how/if to support ukraine's war effort, but god is this being at the whims of a baby-brained billionaire funny

[-] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lol lmao. You're welcome

[-] GenXen@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

I'm as far from a Musk fan as you can get, but this whole narrative of him causing serious damage to the Ukrainian effort because of Starlink smells like western media establishing a fall guy to point to for when the effort ultimately fails. The US gov has subsidized ALL of his businesses so heavily, if Starlink were really that valuable to the operation, they would have forced his hand one way or the other. I was equally as skeptical when they touted Starlinks value in the very beginning of the dispute.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Holy fuck I’d love it if they blamed it all on musk that’d be so funny

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If Biden had Musk strung up for treason or whatever, I'd think about voting for him for a half second

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I'll get all communists I know to vote for Biden if he promises to execute Elon Musk.

[-] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

I'm not trusting any Biden promises. He needs to actually execute Elon before I consider voting for him.

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[-] Zo1db3rg@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah, weren't they hailing it as the saving grace for the efforts at the beginning? Imo they are about to start backtracking hard and admitting defeat and are getting all the scapegoats lines up.

[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

let the slava brains and the bazinga brains fight

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago
[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very cool that this satellite communications network that can make the difference between life and death of hundreds of people is owned and controlled by a man with the intellectual capabilities of an actual hamster

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

I’m just a simple communist, but maybe if you don’t want critical infrastructure during wartime to go away on the whims of a billionaire, maybe you shouldn’t entrust said infrastructure to free market capitalism?

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[-] ComRed2@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Musk is a very obvious US government asset. So what's his endgame here, Is it all just a distraction?

Also, “Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”

Then why did he create contracts with the pentagon and the department of defense??

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

he gets a lot of subsidies from the government, yes. I don't know if he's a government asset so much as the american government is an asset of the bourgeoisie as a class. It's sort of a chicken and egg problem at this point, but I'm inclined to believe the latter rather than the former.

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

There are some bourg which hold the leash and some that are on the leash. Musk on the leash but thinks he holds it. His shit wagons and wunder rockets would not exist without government subsidies.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

I think the bourgeoisie collectively, as a class, holds the leash of government, and the government, like a good dog, fetches subsidies for them. The state is an instrument for the suppression of one class by another, which is why we should seize the state from the bourgeoisie emilie-shrug

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Even if he's a government asset he can still be an impressionable dumbass.

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[-] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

It is deeply unsettling that a random doofus oligarch can just hugely impact a war like that, someone needs to fix this (change the news so I don't have to hear about it)

[-] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Critical support to the worst person in the world

[-] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

How dare he not let us have nuclear war.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Can we have nuclear war outside today?

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[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A book written by the fucking ex-CEO of CNN states that a drone went offline last year and it's Elon's fault. There's no evidence, no names, no story, just waffle and assertions. This is just distracting noise based on nothing.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Oh good, if they're running pieces like this with evidence as flimsy as that, then he's definitely being viewed as a liability and is likely to have something funny happen to him.

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[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 1 year ago

So first it was the tricksy russkies using secret technologies such as "minefields", and that was why the offensive was failing. Now it's Musk shutting off his ego project. What's next? Indian curse? Anything to deflect the blame from the filth in Pentagon and white house

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Next up is a video of Zelensky saying "Assad must go"

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

So can we convince libs that elon is a traitor and should be executed

[-] underisk@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

No whatever he did is because he’s smart and rich and you’re just hating because you’re poor and stupid.

Don’t waste your time trying to lead the horse to water; it’s happy to drink the sand.

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

It gets better. Apparently he did this after crowd sourcing for ideas and got the idea from Ian miles cheong.

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1699828939311452519?t=mKlj58VXhMnpH5T3E90qaA&s=19

[-] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't like the idea that a gamergate guy is causing major international stuff to happen, no sir.

[-] Clippy@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Rare Elon W, rare Ian W

Now to drink myself to death to forget I ever wrote that

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[-] Zo1db3rg@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago
[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

you know things are bad when Elon Musk is the one being responsible

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[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Critical support to billionaires for their constant work at undermining themselves

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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Hahahahaha

This guy is such an enormous fucking loser

It’s like he’s trying to fuck with people who are uncritical Stan’s of his, seeing what if anything he can do to convince these fucking GOONS that he’s not smart or cool, actually

Absolutely absurd

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Musk is too baby brained and this narrative is too neat. CIA or DOD ordered him to take it down if anything.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

LOCK HIM UP

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