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Image is of one of Ireland's only manned navy ships, the Samuel Beckett. Image sourced from this BBC article.


Putler has been HUMILIATED by the Kursk offensive and this proves that Russia's army is in tatters and unable even to defend its own territory. However, it is simultaneously true that Russia poses an existential threat to countries thousands of miles away, as this recent Politico article demonstrates. Ireland - a country that immediately springs to mind as one surrounded by enemies - is being bullied due to its lack of military.

Despite bearing responsibility for 16 percent of the EU’s territorial waters, and the fact that 75 percent of transatlantic undersea cables pass through or near Irish waters, Ireland is totally defenseless. And I mean completely unable to protect critical infrastructure, or even pretend to secure its own borders. [...] Ireland’s “navy” of six patrol vessels is currently operating with one operational ship due to chronic staff shortages. [...] Ireland simply has no undersea capabilities. How could it, when it barely spends 0.2 percent of GDP on security and defense? And it has, in effect, abdicated responsibility for protecting the Europe’s northwestern borders.

For all we know, the dreaded sea-people from the Bronze Age Collapse could soon emerge from the North Atlantic.

Unfortunately, things are even worse up in the skies. Ireland has no combat jets, and it’s the only country in Europe that can’t monitor its own airspace due to the lack of primary radar systems. Instead, the country has outsourced its security to Britain in a technically secret agreement between Dublin and London, which effectively cedes control over Irish air space to the Royal Air Force. This must be the luck of the Irish — smile and get someone else to protect you for free.

While this is very silly, rearmament has long been a part of US imperial strategy on an economic level. Desai, discussing the US imperial strategy in the WW2 period:

By 1947 [...] the domestic postwar consumer boom was nearing its end. While financing exports became more urgent, the 1946 elections returned a Congress unlikely to approve further loans. Now the Truman Administration concocted the ‘red menace’ to ‘scare the hell out of the country’, enunciated the Truman Doctrine of US support for armed resistance to ‘subjugation’ which launched the cold war, and Congress granted $400 million to prevent left-wing triumphs in Greece and Turkey in 1947.

One reading of history states that the US was so intimidated by the USSR that this forced a policy of massive arms production even outside of official wartime. Why this arms production is not occurring today can be puzzling, and (very reasonably) explained by neoliberals exporting industrial production overseas. However, a different historical reading can explain both the first Cold War, and the ongoing situation in which American weaponry is being almost purposefully given in insufficient numbers to give Ukraine a chance of victory and thus only prolonging their suffering (while generating massive profit for the military-industrial complex):

In this sense the Cold War was not the cause of US imperial policy but its effect. It combined financing exports with fighting combined development by national capitalisms as well as communism. When such ‘totalitarian regimes’ threatened ‘free peoples’, ‘America’s world economic responsibilities’ included aid to countries battling them.

By selling massively expensive weapons to Europe, America could simultaneously guarantee export markets for its industries, trap Europe into reliance on American industries at the expense of their own, and divert European funds away from constructing factories which could compete with American ones. Providing a way to defend against Soviet communism (and now Russian "imperialism") is merely a happy side-effect, and so the lack of effectiveness of American weaponry is causing no great panic among the military-industrial complex, nor an urgent plan to quintuple artillery shell production or Patriot missile production - the deals for F-35s and such are still there, and they are what matter.


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Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful. Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 121 points 3 months ago

Man, TikTok libs who were fully on board with Palestine a month ago have just fully switched over to being huge Kamala Harris stans and the hate for people who continue to care about the Palestinian genocide is pretty palapable.

This isn't really News but it's just a pretty crazy shift in vibes that has me, as an American, feeling like no American can be trusted with access to any power ever.

I feel like maybe a PRC appointed viceroy might be the way to go in the future or something.

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[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 118 points 3 months ago

News mega gang, listen up. Based on vibes, pit in my stomach, voice tone of family in Beirut, and the spirits of George Hawi and Kamal Jumblatt speaking to me:

Iran and Hezbollah will be attacking Israel before Sunday. If it doesn't happen, I'll show my face here again on Sunday and you're all allowed to call me a dumbass.

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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 107 points 3 months ago
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[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 105 points 3 months ago

Pope Francis says the IDF is commiting terrorism
Under no circumstances do you have to hand it to the Catholics but this is cool at least

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 100 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Zak Cope, third-worldist marxist and author of Divided World Divided Class and mentioned fairly regularly on Hexbear, has gone completely off the deep end. October 7th was too much for him.

He's now stated his full support for free-market capitalism and colonialism, and is advocating for the rules-based international order as a way to protect from Russian and communist influence, is drawing equivalencies between Nazis and the Soviets, is saying that unequal exchange is not real, centralized planning is impossible, quoting Thatcher, etc.

For many western leftists, now that oppressed people are actually beginning to fight back in (necessarily imperfect) ways, rather than being pitiable victims marching into the sea as Gandhi wished, all left-wing values go out the window and they realize their class interests are aligned against these uprisings. I must admit that I thought a big exposure to the literature and even writing a significant book on the subject would inoculate a person against taking the complete opposite values less than a year after they held those values, but Zionism is a stubborn little tumor which can rapidly take over the body once it awakens.

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[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 99 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Happening now: Israeli ambassador to the UN goes on hysterical genocidal screed at UNSC, stops himself every 2 seconds to emphasize that Arabs are terrorists, and again every 4 seconds to scream and moan pronounjak-rage about the UNSC falling for “terrorist lies”, ends Hitlerite speech with “WE ARE THE DEFENDERS OF CIVILIZATION” and storms out of the room

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 82 points 3 months ago

this is fairly typical behaviour when you're winning a war

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 99 points 3 months ago

Visiting someone who has cable news on. First time i've seen cable news in a long time, and there's a lot of super carefully engineered psychic damage inducing electoral propaganda. And you know what? American electoralism isn't just largely pointless, it's actively evil. It's indoctrinating people in to a completely false reality disconnected from any either domestic or foreign political realities.

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 93 points 3 months ago

A representative from the Vatican City State delivered credentials to Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, giving legitimacy to his government in the eyes of the Roman Catholic Church.

Far-Right latino catholics and protestants really pissed rn lol.

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[-] Flaps@hexbear.net 93 points 3 months ago

On holiday and a bunch of yanks and white south africans having an open conversation about how the idf can kill anyone in their sleep and how apartheid wasnt exactly nice but at least it was good for the economy. First time ive encountered the famed zionist lib. Awful people.

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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 92 points 3 months ago
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[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 92 points 3 months ago

Come on do something Mr Khamenei, my hexbear reputation is on the line here. What if my son finds out that his dad became TinyPenis after being let down by the Axis of Resistance

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 90 points 3 months ago

Hasan getting hit up by Obama and other Dems to do some shit at the DNC is pretty funny in that it shows how much of a lib he comes across as lmao

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[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 90 points 3 months ago

The Lawyer in the Disney+ case is the grandson of Batista

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[-] coolusername@lemmy.ml 90 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

it's interesting that there has been zero coverage on Hezbollah successfully striking an Israeli base with many missiles with none of them being intercepted

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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 90 points 3 months ago

Capitalism is when no food.

A million Argentine children skip meals each day due to poverty

Over half of families with children had to stop buying basic foods because they couldn’t afford them, a UNICEF report has found

In Argentina, over one million children are skipping meals each day because their families cannot afford food, according to a UNICEF report published Tuesday. The number of households who cannot make ends meet has risen significantly since 2022.

An April study of households with children found that 7% of children and teens, and 30% of adults, had to skip at least one meal a day because they couldn’t afford food. The report showed that seven in 10 children were poor in April. Poverty was defined as either economic poverty or deprivation of basic needs such as education, social protection, or adequate housing.

In a context of growing economic and social inequality, 52% of households with kids stopped buying essential foods because they could no longer afford them. This is 11 percentage points higher than in June 2023, and the highest since UNICEF started conducting these surveys in 2020. This number represents 3.3 million households, which are home to almost 7 million children.

According to UNICEF’s data, 90% of these homes stopped buying milk, meat and other similar products. “The intake of foods crucial for the nutrition of children and teenagers (meat, vegetables, fruit and dairy) has significantly dropped, while it has increased in the case of cheaper and less nutritious foods (pasta, flour and bread),” the report read. In 48% of the homes surveyed, the monthly income wasn’t sufficient to cover basic household expenses. This was seven points higher than last year, and 15 points higher than in June 2022.

The situation gets worse when the head of the household is unemployed, on welfare, or a single woman. Almost a quarter (23%) of families also stopped buying medicine, while 32% stopped going for medical or dental checkups. Many had to borrow money or spend their savings to cover basic expenses.

In the 12 months prior to the survey, a quarter of teenagers had jobs, UNICEF found. A further 12% were looking for work.

UNICEF’s numbers are in line with recent studies on poverty in Argentina. An analysis of official data by the Argentine Catholic University’s Social Debt Observatory released last week showed that seven out of 10 children were poor in the first quarter of 2024. Poverty hit 55% and destitution rose to 20% in the first three months of the year, the observatory found.

The damage this is doing simply cannot be calculated. The very social fabric is being destroyed, slowly but surely. Of course, ancaps and their fascist and liberal allies will see this as "mere numbers", "poverty rates can go down actually" they'll say. Yes, sure, but the damage malnutrition does to a child marks them for life. A child that doesn't have access to quality food at that age develops problems that will follow them for the rest of their lives. This is absolutely degrading the material conditions in which we live, it's degrading people who never had a shot on their lifes. The effects will be truly felt in 20, 30 and 40 years.

Capitalism is a crime against humanity.

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[-] HotAtForty@hexbear.net 89 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you remove the English Army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin Castle, unless you set about the organization of the Socialist Republic your efforts will be in vain. England will still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs

James Connolly, Socialism and Nationalism 1897

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 89 points 3 months ago

kamala harris being considered "youthful" when she'll be 60 on election day just tells me the bar is on the ocean floor. lmao obama was 47, bush was 54, clinton was 46

she's not even gen x, she's just a (late) boomer and would be america's 5th boomer president lmfao. love how when biden said he's "passing the torch to the next generation" he just meant from his silent gen ass back to another boomer

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[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 89 points 3 months ago
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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 88 points 3 months ago

UN envoy calls Canada’s use of migrant workers ‘breeding ground for slavery’

Throughout the country, he found workers were locked in debt bondage.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/canada-foreign-workers-un-report

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[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 88 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
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[-] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 85 points 3 months ago

squidward-chill

Did the Resistance retaliate yet?

squidward-nochill

Nah still cookin

squidward-chill

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[-] wombat@hexbear.net 85 points 3 months ago

it is august 12 and stalin saved the world from fascism

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 85 points 3 months ago

Donald Trump criticizes Kamala Harris and says that the Democrat, if elected, will implement a “communist system” in which “everyone has access to health care”.

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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 85 points 3 months ago

A vote for the Democratic Party is a vote for genocide. A vote for the Republican Party is a vote for genocide.

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[-] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 84 points 3 months ago

Anybody see that footage of Ukrainian Army funeral processions where there’s a loudspeaker saying you must kneel or be legally charged with offending the Armed Forces and all the people on the sidewalk start kneeling?

Fucking weirdos. Weird country where they tape naked people to lampposts with their bare butts sticking out. If democrats care so much about not appearing weird, they should distance themselves from this deeply diseased nation

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[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 84 points 3 months ago

It's joever

Humiliate me hexbear, laugh in my face, call me a virgin cuck, and rename me TinyPenis, I deserve this for making dumbass predictions

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[-] Ideology@hexbear.net 80 points 3 months ago

Cuba warns against sustained US-UK aggression on Yemen

The US and the UK have been launching airstrikes on Yemen to protect the interests of the Israeli occupation.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 80 points 3 months ago

There is sabotage occurring openly in Ukraine now. They're playing it off as "kids are being paid" but I strongly question that explanation.

NAFO car burned: https://xcancel.com/frontlinekit/status/1824559984425783470

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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 80 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

i really love when there are big brawls in parliaments, like people punching each other in the face and shit. It gives politics a very realistic outlook, it makes it feel very alive and real. I want MY representatives to break some noses and kick opposition members while they're on the floor. I want my representatives to have fucking blood in their veins, none of that "yes uhm sir mr hitler sir let us uhm debate why we shouldn't exterminate non whites sir" liberal bullshit. NO MAN, go and punch that motherfucker in the nose RIGHT NOW.

(I'm talking about this in the context of a brawl which just happened in the Turkish Parliament)

I remember the puppet Korea used to have lots of brawls in their Parliament, aye, I can respect that. If people are punching, kicking and spittin' blood over politics, well, at least these people feel something. They're not truly dead inside. Plus it's fun to watch on video.

I loved that moment I think it was in Taiwan, where a member of parliament stole the bill from the opposition and ran away with it LMAO. That is so good. I want people like that.

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 80 points 3 months ago

How was it not one of us who came up with “Holocaust Harris”? We’re slipping.

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 79 points 3 months ago

New Al Quds brigades/Al Qassam video https://x.com/Hanzpal2/status/1823386645476814892

the two people arguing in the middle part of the video are saying "Habibi let me blow it up 🥺 ; no I'll do it; habibi, by Allah let me do it I have sinned a lot in my life let me do it 🥺 ; okay let's do it together"

In the end they thank Allah

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 79 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nord Stream sabotage: Germany issues arrest warrant

In an investigation published Wednesday, the outlets reported that the suspect is a Ukrainian diving instructor, named only as Volodymyr Z. for privacy reasons.

Holy shit Zelenskyy personally blew up the pipelines.

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[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 78 points 3 months ago

a little bit of analysis about Kursk

The only thing I'd want to add to Mikael's excellent analysis here is that the Russians are actually fighting a much more conventional area defense than we've seen in the very static fighting in the Donbass. They're not trying to stop Ukrainian drives at the screen line like we saw in the Hundred Days, they're instead diverting them into engagement areas between their front line of screening troops and the main defensive line 5-10km to the rear and destroying them there. Ergo why we've seen Ukrainian units just go on these long runs in the last couple days - way past where the front line should be - and then get wiped out in what look like complex ambushes. That's... actually just how you do a very normal area defense.

Why have the Russians changed tactics? Two reasons. First, in Kursk they - paradoxically - have space to fight. The Donbass is a cramped theater where real estate is at an absolute premium. They're either backing up into the sea, key lines of communication, or critical urban areas there. There's actual operational space in rural Kursk. Second and relatedly, the "forward" defense we're used to seeing in the Donbass will not inflict crippling casualties on an attacker quickly for the simple reason that attacks often fail in the "cone of fire" in no man's land or even behind the attacker's front line, allowing defeated units to easily withdraw. In a conventional defense the attacker is defeated in a kill zone behind the screen line and it is far easier to annihilate an attacking force. Ergo why we're now seeing huge AFU equipment losses, with entire Ukrainian companies burning out behind the ostensible Russian "front."

Having found themselves in battle with the AFU's strategic reserves, the Russians now very much intend to use the Battle of Sudzha-Korenevo to destroy as much of those reserves as possible. Even if that means scaring some war mappers on the internet.

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[-] Ideology@hexbear.net 77 points 3 months ago

NASA Investigation Finds Boeing Hindering Americans’ Return to Moon

A report from the space agency’s office of the inspector general pins the blame on the aerospace giant’s mismanagement and inexperienced workforce.

Gee, it's almost like it wouldn't be mismanaged and inexperienced if they didn't sell out the space industry when the USSR fell.

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 77 points 3 months ago

Under the reign of King Brandon the Feeble-minded, the people languished in despair, but with Kamala the Awkward enthroned upon the Throne of Skulls, it seemed as though the very heavens smiled anew upon the realm. Priests and sages divined hopeful prophecies of triumph over the Orange Troll King, reading them in the entrails of their sacrifices. They proclaimed Kamala the Awkward as pure and unsullied by sin. The might of the Orange Troll King appeared to wane, and he grew weak and weary. The scandalous revelations of the unnatural proclivities of his lieutenant, known as the Vance, bewildered and demoralized the trollish hordes.

So diminished was the power of the Orange Troll King that he found himself compelled to ride up to Lord Elon the Divorced, to abase himself and kiss his ring, indulging in the latter's disgraceful vanity, all in the desperate hope of forging an alliance with him and his repulsive subterranean minions.

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 77 points 3 months ago

It's almost funny how quickly the libs pulled out the Nuremberg defense for Kkkamala in regards to her active participation in the Gaza genocide and her complete unwillingness to actually take a stand separate from Biden's.

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[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 77 points 3 months ago

372 years ago, on this day in 1652, the Act for the Settlement of Ireland was passed by the English Parliament, preceding the greatest exercise in ethnic cleansing in early modern Europe.

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 77 points 3 months ago

Canada's foreign worker program a 'breeding ground for contemporary slavery,' says UN report

Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker Program serves as a "breeding ground for contemporary slavery," according to a scathing UN report examining Canada's efforts to limit unfair labour.

The program allows employers to hire foreign workers to fill temporary jobs when they can't find qualified Canadians. The number of workers employed through the program has grown considerably in recent years. According to the UN report, there were just over 84,000 permit holders in 2018. In 2022, there were nearly 136,000. Most of them worked in agriculture and related labour sectors.

The report, written by UN Special Rapporteur on contemporary forms of slavery Tomoya Obokata, says the program puts workers in an unfair power imbalance with their employers.

For example, if a worker is fired, they may be deported. Some workers are deliberately not informed of their rights or too fearful to report exploitative working conditions, wrote Obokata. Many of them are also ensnared in debt bondage while participating in the programs, according to the report.

Because workers lack access to justice, they are at risk of a variety of other abuses, Obokata wrote.

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 77 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hezbollah has just released never before seen footage of their massive underground missile launch facility called Al-Imad 4:
https://xcancel.com/AMoqawem313/status/1824359248135925778

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[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 76 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Twitter user @EmissaryOfNight shares what is allegedly the US's vision for a resolution of the Gaza genocide: https://xcancel.com/EmissaryOfNight/status/1824237079011926458

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I don't think this has really circulated on Twitter because it's only been covered by Arab and Hebrew press with some translations by Jacob Magid etc but here is the ten principles the U.S. is allegedly sponsoring in a document they've drafted with allied Arab states. 🧵

"Meaningful pathway to an independent Palestinian state" seems to be the language that the U.S. has landed on for a peace process they hope to establish will almost certainly lead to anything but an independent Palestinian state. — Emissary of Night 🔆🍉 (@EmissaryOfNight) August 16, 2024

  1. "The international community must support the Palestinian people in rebuilding their lives in the Gaza Strip, including through extraordinary investments in humanitarian, reconstruction, and economic development needs....cont

"This requires the opening of land crossings into the Gaza Strip and the unimpeded and sustainable flow of humanitarian and reconstruction assistance. Gaza’s neighbors must support and facilitate this process."

  1. Groups that espouse the use of violence or commit terrorist attacks against civilians cannot govern or dictate Gaza’s future. cont

"All terrorist organizations and armed groups must disarm and renounce violence. A disarmament, demobilization, and reintegration mechanism will facilitate this process in Gaza"

  1. "Israel must withdraw from the Gaza Strip with no reduction in its territory or reoccupation. There must be no forced displacement from Gaza and Palestinians must be allowed to return to all their communities in Gaza."

  2. "The West Bank and the Gaza Strip must ultimately be reunified under the sole authority of the Palestinian Authority, including civil governance and security responsibilities. cont

"The transitional period of Palestinian-led governance will require unique arrangements and support and contributions from international partners."

  1. "An enduring end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and end to the occupation can only be achieved through direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization that resolve all final status issues. cont

"We fully support steps to resume final status negotiations to achieve the goal of two states for two peoples enjoying mutual recognition and full equal rights for all their citizens."

  1. "Palestinians deserve to live in dignity and security in an independent, contiguous, and viable state of their own and Israelis deserve to live in security and to be accepted, recognized, and integrated into the region, in a two-state solution negotiated on the basis cont

...of the June 4, 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps and a just and agreed solution for Palestinian refugees, as envisioned in the Arab Peace Initiative"

  1. "An end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict requires a coordinated regional effort. The possibility of normalization between Saudi Arabia and other Arab statesa nd Israel with concrete progress toward a two-state solution cont

...is a promising avenue to achieving peace, security, and regional integration that will benefit all."

  1. "Unilateral actions and violations by the Government of Israel and the Palestinian Authority that undermine progress towards the two-state solution must end, including the expansion of settlements and outposts and the glorification of terrorism and violence. cont

...The Government of Israel and the Palestinian Authority must uphold the rule of law and reject violence and incitement to violence, whether committed by officials or members of the public."

  1. "The parties must implement commitments made in prior agreements, including at Aqaba and Sharm al-Sheikh in 2023, and uphold the historic status quo at the Holy sites in Jerusalem and respect the special role of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. cont

...We recognize the deep connection of people of many faiths to Jerusalem and that the boundaries in Jerusalem are subject to final status negotiations."

  1. "The Palestinian Authority must implement a comprehensive reform agenda, focused on good governance, transparency, fighting corruption, and education and welfare reform." /end of principles.

"Notably, the US vision does not advocate a “time-bound, irreversible pathway to a Palestinian state,” as Blinken has repeatedly insisted will be necessary for Saudi Arabia to agree to normalize relations with Israel." Times of Israel. https://t.co/vqyLnUnec7

Assuming this is accurate, the only way this deal gets accepted is if the Palestinians living in Gaza are truly broken. The idea that not only "terrorists," but any "armed group" in Gaza should lay down their weapons while the colonizers get to keep their nuclear weapons is preposterous. That they would trade their arms for the promise of an unimpeded flow of aid. This is the exact state of affairs which lead to Gaza being turned into the biggest concentration camp in history, with the colonizers literally imposing quotas on the number of calories being shipped into the ghetto.

The idea that a "transitional period" needs to be imposed from outside. Installing the PA in Gaza will work just about as smoothly as installing Guaido in Venezuela. It's a farce.

If this is seriously what they're pushing in these negotiations, these negotiations will not last very long. Jacking off into a toilet would be a more effective use of our diplomatic resources.

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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 76 points 3 months ago

Some communist from the West Bank posted on TheDeprogram saying they overheard that PFLP members are being arrested by the occupation forces in Nablus, Jenin, etc. even the 80+ year olds who can no longer walk.

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