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The Terminator and Terminator 2: Judgment Day continue to stand the test of time as some of the finest sci-fi action movies ever made. However, the subsequent sequels always felt like they were trying (and failing) to recapture that lightning in a bottle. James Cameron revealed last year that he's been working on his own secret Terminator project, and while speaking with Empire for the 40th anniversary of the original movie, he dropped a big hint at what it could look like. TL;DR: Don't expect to see any familiar characters or iconography.

"This is the moment when you jettison everything that is specific to the last 40 years of Terminator, but you live by those principles," Cameron said, explaining that the franchise needs to move past its iconic characters. "You get too inside it, and then you lose a new audience because the new audience care much less about that stuff than you think they do. That's the danger, obviously, with Avatar as well, but I think we've proven that we have something for new audiences."

This means no T-800, no Sarah Connor, and no John Connor. Stripping away these elements would take the franchise back to its bones: humans vs machines, and that's just what Cameron wants. "You've got powerless main characters, essentially, fighting for their lives, who get no support from existing power structures, and have to circumvent them but somehow maintain a moral compass. And then you throw AI into the mix," Cameron teased. "Those principles are sound principles for storytelling today, right? So I have no doubt that subsequent Terminator films will not only be possible, but they'll kick ass. But this is the moment where you jettison all the specific iconography."

Arnold Schwarzenegger has already said that he's done with the franchise, and I can't say I blame him. The last three installments (Terminator: SalvationTerminator: Genisys, and Terminator: Dark Fate) were each meant to kick-start a new trilogy, but they all underperformed. Taking things back to basics, without any of the baggage of the previous movies, might be the best way to go.

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 1 points 42 minutes ago

All young me wanted was the intro to T2 as a movie

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 hours ago

That’s great! I’m so tired of everything being about John Connor.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 5 hours ago

Translation: Arnold is too old even with de-aging, so the suits have agreed.

[-] Thehalfjew@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

I know I'm in the minority, but I really like Genysis. And I can enjoy Salvation when I think of it as a "what if" kind of thing. But T3 and Dark Fate were both hot garbage.

[-] AFreeLarryHoover@lemmy.world 35 points 8 hours ago
[-] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

I like that Cameron fella. I hope he's able to create something interesting in that universe because there's a lot of opportunity. They just need to move away from big-bang-boom action and focus on story. I get worn out on modern action flicks because they always have to go way over the top (not believable) and the action is just non-stop (gets old).

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

Sarah Connor Chronicles was dope. A mini series would work even. The movies could retain more of that action though.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 16 minutes ago

The new anime over on Netflix was dope and had some decent philosophical dialogue.

I for one look forward to the next Terminator movie, written by ChatGPT.

[-] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Honestly, couldn’t be worse than some of the recent Terminator movies.

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

where humans come from the past to eradicate the valiant machines?

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Thank God, can they also not include any new characters?

I think there are enough Terminator movies now.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Terminator Zero was ok

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 hours ago

I was going to point out how bad Terminator Salvation was. That movie killed the Terminator franchise for me.

Then again, this is James Cameron and he wasn't part of that mess.

[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago

I'm glad he realized his mistake with Avatar 2

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

well, the original definition of the word avatar is a reincarnation of an older character.

the definition of a terminator, on the other hand...

[-] Moreless@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

So.. diverse characters that have the same arcs as the originals and a copy/pasted story from the original but for a modern audience. Can't wait.

[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 0 points 7 hours ago

Is he self-funding and self-distributing? No Hollywood studio is capable of permitting a single movie to be made that isn't nostalgia-bait.

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