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[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Is he tied to any intelligence agencies? I don't know anything about this situation, is there a reason for him to get the epstein treatment or is he a more conventional power dynamic abusingremoved that happened to film it?

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Well the CIA definitely has a few of their tendrils in the US music industry just like Hollywood so it's not impossible but I think it's too soon to call

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 4 points 22 hours ago

I'm convinced he is. There were situations I read about where he wasn't touched because he was an informant/source.

Guy's definitely got handlers protecting and instructing him.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

"Separate art from artist!"

Hard pass on that shit.

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago

wouldn't he have to be an artist first

[-] VHS@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

I don't have any of his albums but I wish he wasn't on Mo Money Mo Problems or Fantasy (Remix) because those are great

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

He produced a ton of hits like two of my favorite biggie songs and I don't know how to feel about that

[-] VHS@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

It's unfortunate for sure but i'll continue to enjoy those songs. I'm not about to disown Biggie or Mary J. Blige because this asshole produced for them

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

In the indictment against Combs, he was accused of forcing victims to have "freak offs," which prosecutors describe as "elaborate and produced sex performances."

He allegedly used his fame and influence as well as drugs like cocaine, ketamine and oxycodone, to coerce and intimidate women to join the "freak offs." Additionally, the "freak offs” were sometimes allegedly captured on camera without the victims' knowledge. Federal investigators seized three AR-15 rifles and 1,000 bottles of baby oil and lubricant when raiding his Miami and Los Angeles homes this past March.

Alright so these are like what? Nude wrestling matches covered in oil and stuff? I feel like this is probably playing it down and it's actually much worse than that.

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago

1,000 bottles of baby oil and lubricant

He must've been buying pallets of individual bottles and it never crossed his mind to just buy it by the barrel.

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 3 points 13 hours ago

Probably worried about going out like a slippery Jimmy Hoffa.

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

well, then you have to have somebody who is dispensing it into smaller bottles, and the smaller bottles need to be cleaned and refilled regularly

probably easier to convince the victims to use these liquids when they're clearly labelled by the manufacturer instead of individual bottles of questionable contents and cleanliness

maybe I'm overthinking it

[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 minutes ago

You're not overthinking it. The complexity of the logistics of getting lubricant in mass quantities to your sexual assault victims can't be overstated. I'm guessing they weren't pinching pennies so a convenient, disposable solution likely won the decision.

I hope I don't end up on a list for this comment.

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

From the indictment:

COMBS, and other members and associates of the Combs Enterprise, wielded the power and prestige of COMBS' role at the Combs Business to intimidate, threaten, and lure female victims into COMBS' orbit, often under the pretense of a romantic relationship. COMBS then used force, threats of force, and coercion, to cause victims to engage in extended sex acts with male commercial sex workers that COMBS referred to as, among other things, "Freak Offs." Freak Offs were elaborate and produced sex performances that COMBS arranged, directed, masturbated during, and often electronically recorded. In arranging these Freak Offs, COMBS, with the assistance of members and associates of the Combs Enterprise, transported, and caused to be transported, commercial sex workers across state lines and internationally. Freak Offs occurred regularly, sometimes lasted multiple days, and often involved multiple commercial sex workers. During Freak Offs, COMBS distributed a variety of controlled substances to victims, in part to keep the victims obedient and compliant. Sometimes unbeknownst to the victims, COMBS kept videos he filmed of victims engaging in sex acts with commercial sex workers. After Freak Offs, COMBS and the victims typically received IV fluids to recover from the physical exertion and drug use.

COMBS subjected victims to physical, emotional, and verbal abuse to cause the victims to engage in Freak Offs. COMBS maintained control over his victims through, among other things, physical violence, promises of career opportunities, granting and threatening to withhold financial support, and by other coercive means, including tracking their whereabouts, dictating the victims' appearance, monitoring their medical records, controlling their housing, and supplying them with controlled substances. During and separate from Freak Offs, COMBS, among other things, hit, kicked, threw objects at, and dragged victims, at times, by their hair. These assaults often resulted in injuries that took days or weeks to heal. COMBS also threatened victims' careers and livelihoods, including if they resisted participating in Freak Offs. Victims believed they could not refuse COMBS' demands without risking their financial or job security or without repercussions in the form of physical or emotional abuse. COMBS also used the sensitive, embarrassing, and incriminating recordings that he made during Freak Offs as collateral to ensure the continued obedience and silence of the victims.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago

Yeah that's much much worse than the news is making it sound.

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

God damn, Get Him To the Greek was bad but now looking back at it, holy shit was he telling on himself.

[-] buh@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It sounds like he was forcing people to make live action porn for him, which is weird and bad on its own, but made worse by the fact that it could go on for multiple days straight

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sounded to me like people getting high off meth and heroin and fucking in giant piled up piles till they passed out. Then like some people still fucking. Like, in the bad way

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

So it looks like he was doing thr epstine thing for thr music industry. So does that mean his real crime is impersonating an officer?

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago

I don't think anyone needs him dead. But he sure as fuck isnt a gonna commit suicide.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 day ago

I am pretty certain they need him dead. The allegations, including a monitoring room of the entire mansion and lots of compramat seems a lot like he's a black Epstein, an asset for the CIA. They probably will kill him

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Manyremoveds record theirremoveds. Just because he's a billionaireremoved doesn't mean he's CIA. It just means he can do it at scale and without consequence. If you look at all the evidence to why Epstein was suspected of being CIA you'll note that the exact opposite is true for Diddy:

  • Epstein was not independently wealthy. His money came from billionaire investors, and ex OSS agents. Diddy owns his own record label and is independently wealthy. Heremoveds people because he is his own boss and no one could tell him no.
  • Epstein's clients were wealthier than him and internationally important. Diddy's guests were other celebrities, people below him and not of any real political importance.
  • Epstein has numerous known connections to intelligence services. Diddy has none.

Edit: what word am I supposed to use to discus this topic? Esp for the '-ists'

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago

The black music scene is relatively opaque. There has long been speculation that black music has been an area of influence for political actors to influence the apartheid regime. There's a relatively recent interview wherein an artist claims that the lyrics and song selections were steered towards violent crime by record company execs who had large financial interests in the prison system. The drug trade, that the CIA relies on so heavily, has a strong dependency on the apartheid regime and the behaviors of ghettoized subcultures.

I agree, it's not the same situation as Epstein, but between the compramat factory, the murders, the constant references to Illuminati, etc, and now suicide watch, it reads a lot like a long running op.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 22 hours ago

Oh, hell no, leave us out of this shit. We got nothing to do with this one.

illuminati

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

"SA"? Or just "assault" ?

[-] Meh@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago
[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

But it would be pretty funny though if he was found dead in his cell and the coroner says he strangled himself in the same way as Epstein did.

[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

Twist: They send a still-living Epstein to be his assassin

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

Diddy was Epstein in blackface the entire time. They just had to kill him again.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the evil mirror mirror universe where this site was founded by r/cumtown posters they already have a :diddy: emoji that's just epstein in blackface, only on rhombusdog

[-] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

I watched an episode of the Hawaii 5-0 reboot in like, 2010 that had this clown guest star as "super cool evil powerful bad guy™️" and even as a teenager I could tell he was pathetic. Hope he rots in jail for life bye

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Pretty hard to get out of RICO charges, so lifetime jail or death are quite likely

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

LOL. This is supposed to make it less obvious?data-laughing

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Didn't they say that one of the guns they found had damage from lube being used on it or what just rumor?

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